Zebralight SC64c

[Tachead]

I'd love to try it. Too bad it is so hard to swap emitters in this light. Even Vinh doesn't do it.

Yeah, an emitter swap isn't easy but, can be done.

 

[Tachead]

Too fat anyway

Yep, definitely less comfortable for EDC then the SC64. Although really, it is not much larger then your HDS...

 

[Tachead]

Too fat anyway

It is also almost the same weight as your HDS(both with cells included) yet offers 7 times the output and likely 15-20x the runtime at the same output...

HDS EDC Rotary with CR123A(as listed on Henry's site) = 102 grams

ZL SC600w MKIV HI with Panasonic NCR18650GA = 110 grams

Just something to consider.

 

[recDNA]

Yep, definitely less comfortable for EDC then the SC64. Although really, it is not much larger then your HDS...

That's why I don't carry the HDS.

 

[Tachead]

That's why I don't carry the HDS.

Oh, ok. Just wanted to make sure you knew how close it was in size and weight to the HDS:thumbsup:.

 

[recDNA]

I'm tempted but doubt I'll do it.

 

[Tachead]

I'm tempted but doubt I'll do it.

I would wait a bit if you do anyway to let ZL work out some of the growing pains of the new releases.

 

[recDNA]

I would wait a bit if you do anyway to let ZL work out some of the growing pains of the new releases.

Great idea. I'd be afraid to buy a used one

 

[Tachead]

Great idea. I'd be afraid to buy a used one

Remember though that ZL will fix any light even if it out of warranty for $15.

 

[Ned-L]

Does anyone have even approximate run times for any of the versions?

 

[Keitho]

My SC64c runs consistently for just shy of 2:00 on H2a (579 lumen rating) on my bike helmet (that is, pretty well air cooled). I consider that runtime to be pretty amazing for 1x18650, warm high-CRI LED.

 

[Ned-L]

My SC64c runs consistently for just shy of 2:00 on H2a (579 lumen rating) on my bike helmet (that is, pretty well air cooled). I consider that runtime to be pretty amazing for 1x18650, warm high-CRI LED.

Thanks - I agree. I have an SC62d which I mostly use for when I run before work when it is still dark. I like to EDC a light loose in my front pants pocket, unless the pants I am wearing have a side pen/flashlight pocket, (current EDC: EagTac Mini DX3), but find the SC62d a little too big for that. The couple of comparison photos I have seen make the SC64 look perhaps just enough smaller (shorter and the head looks a little smaller) that it might carry comfortably loose in a front pants pocket. Any thoughts?

 

[Keitho]

I think the size difference is minimal--same bezel dia., .2" length, and .1 oz per the spec sheets. The sc63 and 64 are the smallest 18650 lights that I know of, but only fractionally smaller than the 62. I think I might consider an upgrade based on the UI, or maybe the LED choice.

When I carry my SC64 in gym shorts, I actually tuck the light inside my waistband with the pocket clip outside the waistband to hold it in place. It beats the jostling in/on a pocket. I do the same with a pocket knife--just a matter of finding just the right spot.

 

[Fireclaw18]

DQG Tiny IV 18650 is smaller than the Zebralight SC63/64.

The Zebralight is a much better light though.

 

[Ares]

Do these higher CRI lights have a smaller more defined hotspot? How is their throw? I find myself disappointed with my sc64 beam profile. I like a smaller hotspot like the 62 or even a little smaller.

The hotspot is roughly the same size, but it's less "floody" if that makes any sense? There's more depth perception, put it that way.

I have an old SC62c and 62d with a much tighter hotspot. Maybe you could find one of those somewhere? Nice little torches and honestly the best tints I've seen, but I like a wider hotspot myself. They good for precision work and for tint comparisons, though. I keep them both as examples of what "c" and "d" should be in a ZebraLight lol

 

[Ares]

For anyone wondering how my SC64w/c debacle played out, ZL did indeed replace my torch. And although I had claimed I liked a green tint, it was SO sickeningly green I could barely stand it. They also didn't ship a pocket clip with it, so now one of them doesn't have a clip lol.

I put it in a drawer and tried not to think about it. Recently, I decided to pull the trigger and order another SC64c. This time in the comments I put something along the lines of "please give me the least green tint you can find - something in the yellow/orange/rose variety, if you can manage it". I also apologized for being so obnoxious and thanked them profusely for entertaining my shenanigans lol

I'm very, very pleased with it. It is STILL a tad on the green side, mind you. But just barely. Almost imperceptibly - I have to be comparing it to my Emisar D4 XP-G2 4000k to notice. Compared to the SC64w, it just looks *warmer* with more depth perception and noticeably better color - and I absolutely love it. The old one gave everything a green cast, even in the hotspot (even outdoors!). This hotspot is perfectly warm *white*. It gets a weeeee bit green on the outer edges, but that's white wall hunting. Outside it's a dream. Very glad I gave it another shot!

I will say, I requested a green one the first time around - and again, got what I asked for. I thought I liked that tint more, but the Emisar D4 has changed my perception on that. So I never returned it, but I'm quite glad I bought another one. I'll be passing my other SC64c on at Christmas time haha.

 

[Bob_McBob]

Do these higher CRI lights have a smaller more defined hotspot? How is their throw? I find myself disappointed with my sc64 beam profile. I like a smaller hotspot like the 62 or even a little smaller.

Replying to a very old comment indeed... Zebralight changed the texture of their OP reflectors in the middle of the last generation, so all their lights now have less defined hotspots that look larger than before. Especially annoying with a light like the SC600 HI series where the well-defined hotpot and extra throw were part of the appeal. I am with you: that's what I look for in an EDC with a reflector, so it's not an improvement to me.

 

[Lithium466]

Also the "old" 62c and d had the Philips emitters, not the most efficient but generally great tint and tight hotspot.

 

[Bob_McBob]

It looks like ZL updated the PID tuning for the current generation at some point. A brand new SC64c no longer has the extreme ringing while maintaining thermal regulation.

 

[Tixx]

But they don't make an LH351D