Zebralight SC700d 21700 XHP70.2 90+CRI

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WalkIntoTheLight said:
Yeah, okay, it's totally not needed, but I didn't spend $100 on a light just to use it at 50 lumens all the time. That's like buying a Ferrari and only driving it at 10mph.
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I seem them as a good SUV not a Ferrari. Versatile with .04lm - 3000lm and everything in between. You can use it to get groceries or do some serious off-roading.
 
Well, indoors, which is probably where I use the SC64w HI the most, it rarely sees much more than M1. And, similarly, when I walk with the SC600w MkIV HI, it mostly gets used at a lower medium mode. But, damn... it's fun to use it on max. I like the way it illuminates bare trees at this time of year. It makes them look like they're lit up with Christmas lights, especially after a snowfall.
 
markr6 said:
ONE WEEK! maybe...
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Too bad Zebralight never updates their web pages. The SC64w HI still says,
"Pre-order. Shipping Starts on Nov 23, 2018"

But it's actually been shipping for about a month.

So, we don't really know when the SC700d will start shipping.
 
holygeez03 said:
Why not stick with XHP50.2 and have an SC600 IV Plus with a beam that is a better balance of throw/flood (with significantly better runtime and heat management as well)?
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WalkIntoTheLight said:
Well, we don't know yet what the beam profile will be like. With a larger reflector, but larger emitter, it could be more or less floody than the 600w Plus. IMO, I wouldn't want it more floody, as the Plus is already a big flooder.

As for heat management, it will probably be similar to the Plus. That is, not great. It will be brighter, but it also has more mass to absorb the extra heat.

The 700 is obviously aimed more as a utility light, rather than an EDC which Zebralight has mainly concentrated on. They might find it a more crowded market if they go to a larger format.
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I've EDC'd my SC600 for 7 years, and I would gladly upgrade to the SC700d now, but, Zebralight didn't change the *one* thing I've pined for most often: less spill

80° spill is fine for medium and low modes, but it blinds me like a bare light bulb would at 800 LM and up

I'm going to hold-out for a 21700 size light with less spill for walking around at night

My oLight SR52ut isn't EDC'able, but its' 64° spill doesn't blind me on dark nights
 
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WmArnold1 said:
I've EDC'd my SC600 for 7 years, and I would gladly upgrade to the SC700d now, but, Zebralight didn't change the *one* thing I've pined for most often: less spill

80° spill is fine for medium and low modes, but it blinds me like a bare light bulb would at 800 LM and up
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Try the SC600w MkIV HI. It still has 80 degree spill, but it seems like a much dimmer spill.

I agree that the Plus destroys any night vision when used on a high mode. But the HI is much more useful outdoors, since you can see far without the blinding spill up close. The 600w HI is Zebralight's throwiest light, one of my favorite's outdoors. Throwy enough to be useful in the distance, but not so much that it's useless up close.
 
I will always wonder what would happen if they took everything in the SC600IV Plus and put it in a SC700 size light... maybe we will find out someday.
 
I bit the bullet. Got one and a battery, though I did buy a 5000mah 50E to have on hand,, I figure I would like its capacity at lower outputs......really thats my interest in a 21700 light... 1000 lumens for maybe 40-50% longer than a 3500mah 18650 cell
 
Ive been EDcing my SC600w III HI for a couple years on a rotating holster(projects ahead hands free). While I have never used the sub settings aside from factory default levels, I really like the light. I almost upgraded last year. After seeing this new offering I'm glad I didn't. I know it means a new cell size and possibly a new charger, but I'm gonna make the move for 21700 power
 
Shipping week (maybe)! What a long wait...hopefully they're on track. I'll definitely be watching my email more frequently this week.
 
I'm gonna hold out on this one and will probably jump on the inevitable HI version when it comes out. Might be a long wait though.. a ZL thrower sounds too awesome to pass.
 
likethevegetable said:
I'm gonna hold out on this one and will probably jump on the inevitable HI version when it comes out. Might be a long wait though.. a ZL thrower sounds too awesome to pass.
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I don't think Cree makes a HI version of the XHP70 yet. Or the XHP50, for that matter. So it may be a few years before Cree even releases the emitter, much less ZL putting it in a light.
 
lampeDépêche said:
I don't think Cree makes a HI version of the XHP70 yet. Or the XHP50, for that matter. So it may be a few years before Cree even releases the emitter, much less ZL putting it in a light.
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They make XP-L HI and XHP35 HI emitters. Which makes sense, because they're small emitters so they're better for throw. I can't see them producing an XHP70 HI, unless it's purely for tint-shift improvements.

Maybe Zebralight will stick an XHP35 HI in the SC700 format. It would make a nice thrower, but would require a different driver (and PID controller, etc). SC700 host, SC600w HI emitter and driver, updated PID, etc. Could be nice!

I'm not holding my breath, though.
 
markr6 said:
I seem them as a good SUV not a Ferrari. Versatile with .04lm - 3000lm and everything in between...
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Cars don't make great analogies for flashlights. Cars are a lot more complicated and there are more design trade-offs between and econobox and a ferrari, if we stick to road performance. Not sure what an offroading flashlight would be. A supercar isn't great at 10mph. A SC700 _will_ be great at 50lm, the only compromise is the larger size, which may be an advantage, depending. That leaves cost. Which is irrelevant. I'm a flashlight nut and buying it anyway. A Ferrari is 10x the price of a Prius, but an extra $81 for fun is a lot easier for me to swing than an extra 225 kilobucks. Running it at max for the wow of it won't get me a speeding ticket, either.

SC700 page recently switched from pre-order to backorder, not sure what that means, but perhaps shipping is nigh. Next week would be lovely. I may have the office to myself Thursday, and the back part of the "office" is a warehouse area, not many shelves, maybe 100' x 25' x 20', that gets pitch black at night. Also a has nice long road with no streetlights. Much more fun than dealing with the annoying LED streetlights near the house.
 
radellaf said:
Cars don't make great analogies for flashlights. Cars are a lot more complicated and there are more design trade-offs between and econobox and a ferrari, if we stick to road performance. Not sure what an offroading flashlight would be. A supercar isn't great at 10mph. A SC700 _will_ be great at 50lm, the only compromise is the larger size, which may be an advantage, depending. That leaves cost. Which is irrelevant. I'm a flashlight nut and buying it anyway. A Ferrari is 10x the price of a Prius, but an extra $81 for fun is a lot easier for me to swing than an extra 225 kilobucks. Running it at max for the wow of it won't get me a speeding ticket, either.

SC700 page recently switched from pre-order to backorder, not sure what that means, but perhaps shipping is nigh. Next week would be lovely. I may have the office to myself Thursday, and the back part of the "office" is a warehouse area, not many shelves, maybe 100' x 25' x 20', that gets pitch black at night. Also a has nice long road with no streetlights. Much more fun than dealing with the annoying LED streetlights near the house.
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backorder.. I hope I made the first wave
 
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