ZL SC80 17500

[KDM]

Want to hear people's experience using a 17500 in the SC80. What fits, what doesn't? Is it worth going to 17500 vs AW 123 or eneloops that i already have?

 

[ScaryFatKidGT]

Me to I have been wanting to run the Sunwayman V11 and V10R on them too if someone on here bores AA extenders

 

[regulator]

I use AW 17500 in mine. Mine fit with out problem. The benefit is the extended runtime. They have 1100ma capacity vs only 750ma capacity of either 14500 or rcr123's. I keep a spare handy as well.

An envelop has about 2.64 watt hours capacity. The 17500 has a little over 4 watt hours (3.7v X 1.1A). And remember, rechargeable lithium has very low self discharge too.

With the high efficiency of the Zebra light circuit and the 17500 cell, you get nice runtime/output in a compact light.

 

[KDM]

I use AW 17500 in mine. Mine fit with out problem. The benefit is the extended runtime. They have 1100ma capacity vs only 750ma capacity of either 14500 or rcr123's. I keep a spare handy as well.

An envelop has about 2.64 watt hours capacity. The 17500 has a little over 4 watt hours (3.7v X 1.1A). And remember, rechargeable lithium has very low self discharge too.

With the high efficiency of the Zebra light circuit and the 17500 cell, you get nice runtime/output in a compact light.

AW protected cell? I'm guessing the SC80 will not protect against low voltage since it's able to operate on the lower voltage of AA's?

 

[regulator]

AW protected cell? I'm guessing the SC80 will not protect against low voltage since it's able to operate on the lower voltage of AA's?

Yes - protected cell. I would not use an unprotected cell.

 

[henry1960]

I use AW 17500 also in mine, and really like the runtimes much better and battery fits fine too...

 

[Up All Night]

A 17500 you say! Looks like I may have to revisit the SC80 idea.
Regulator & Henry1960, thanks for that!......I think

 

[KDM]

I ordered a couple of 17500's to try out. And some more 18650's and another charger. Dang this stuff is additive! I've bought way too much here lately!

 

[tonkem]

Is the runtime still shorter than with an eneloop 2000 mah or 2500 mah? Thanks.

I use AW 17500 in mine. Mine fit with out problem. The benefit is the extended runtime. They have 1100ma capacity vs only 750ma capacity of either 14500 or rcr123's. I keep a spare handy as well.

An envelop has about 2.64 watt hours capacity. The 17500 has a little over 4 watt hours (3.7v X 1.1A). And remember, rechargeable lithium has very low self discharge too.

With the high efficiency of the Zebra light circuit and the 17500 cell, you get nice runtime/output in a compact light.

 

[henry1960]

Is the runtime still shorter than with an eneloop 2000 mah or 2500 mah? Thanks.

You would get a little more run time with the 17500 (if my clculation is right) then the eneloop 2000 mah and it would be a little bit brighter on high only with the 17500....

 

[regulator]

Is the runtime still shorter than with an eneloop 2000 mah or 2500 mah? Thanks.

All modes work the same with the 17500 (low modes still go way low). High level will be higher since the Eneloop can't provide enough power for the circuit to get full brighhtness. You will get about 50% more runtime with the 17500 over the Eneloop due to it's higher capacity. After all, it's the same length as an AA but width of a CR123 cell.

 

[Creep0815]

Hello,
do they fit without any modifications or will i have to drill the body?

Thank you

 

[regulator]

As stated above, mine (AW protected 17500) fit without any modification and nice and snug without any rattle - a perfect fit.

 

[KDM]

My AW protected 17500's came in, been using the light for several days now. They're working great, one was a little more snug than the other. With light pressure i rolled it around with my fingers as if you were applying a sticker. That was enough for it to go in and out with ease.

 

[Creep0815]

Hello,
thanks for your replay. I found those cells:

Wolf Eyes LRB150B

pecifications:

• Voltage: 3.7V
• Capacity: 1000mAH
• Weight: 30g
• Length: 51 mm
• Diameter: 16.50 mm
• CE approved

Applications:

• Two LRB-150B have the same size and same voltage with three CR123A Lithium batteries,
  so can be used to upgrade the un-rechargeable flashlights which use three CR123A Lithium
  batteries to rechargeable models. No need to replace the 9.0V lamp at all!
  
  (http://www.wolf-eyes.com/product/Battery.html)

I've ordered two pcs in a german shop. The diameter od 16.50 mm should fit perfect in the SC80.

(i'll report when they're arrived)!

Greetings

 

[Fireclaw18]

I have an SC80 and bought an AW protected 17500 for it.

The AW protected 17500 does NOT fit. It is about 1 mm too thick. It looks like if I removed the "aw" sticker I might be able to squeeze it in, but the only way to get it out would be to unscrew the head and push the battery out of the tube. The only way to get a loose fit would be to remove the sticker and the black wrapper and use it as an unprotected cell.

I'm personally not a huge fan of my SC80 and it is not my EDC light.

What I like about the SC80:
1. Feels great in the hand. Extremely secure and easy to use. The shape of the light feels more comfortable and secure in the hand than any other light I own.
2. Nice beam pattern courtesy of the orange peel reflector. No rings.
3. Runs on 14500, but can also use AA as a backup.
4. Cool white tint isn't greenish like that on my SC51.

What I dislike about the SC80:
1. Not very bright - much dimmer than my Jetbeam RRT-01, V11R high CRI, or homebuilt customized Sipik SK58 with neutral T6 running at 2.8 amps. As a short-range EDC light with shallow reflector I think Zebra should have used an XM-L instead of an XP-G. A bigger hotspot is nice for this kind of light.
2. Cool white - I much prefer neutral tint. If I'm going to use cool white I want it to be a really powerful pocket rocket, which the SC80 is not.
3. Unreliable electronics - I've occasional had the driver crap out on me and the light stop working. This problem occurred twice and then went away and the light has been functional for 6+ months now. However, only max brightness is available on high mode. All secondary high modes don't work. Double-clicking the switch when the light is on high gives a brief stuttering flash then the light turns off. Double-clicking when on low or medium works fine though.
4. Battery tube appears to be much thicker than it needs to be and does not fit my 17500

 

[Creep0815]

Wolf Eyes LRB150B

• Diameter: 16.50 mm

The cells arrived today. The manufactor specs are wrong. Both cells have a diameter of 17,1mm 🙁
They dont fit!

 

[jruser]

There are a few people in this thread that have reported using AW 17500 cells. Would one of you be able to post a runtime on high for one of these cells? Just would like to know the amount of time from fully charged until the cell's protection cuts off.

Also, for anybody that owns the light, what are your thoughts on pocket carry with the clip? Is it too fat? Could anybody post a picture of this clipped to their pocket? I am wondering how it looks externally, since it isn't 100% deep carry. Also, if anybody has both the SC80 and a Quark AA, could you post a picture with them both side by side so I can see the size difference?

 

[CitizenInsane]

I was able to get about 85-90 minutes on high in my SC80w, using a newly purchased AW Protected 17500 1100mah battery.

 

[justanotherguy]

Edited Due To Reading Comprehension