G2 168s ?

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Pila 168S is the proper battery to run in a g2 nitrolon correct? will this run the p60 adeaquately?
 

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Lunarmodule said:
Yep. 168S works well. P60 draws an average of 960mA of current so you get over an hour runtime with a single charge.

I don't agree with that. A P60 module has to work at a nominal voltage of 6 [v], a 168s has an average (working at high drain current) voltage of 3.6 [v].

My advice, take a Pila 3.7V Lamp Assembly (it does fit in a 6P, ask J.S. Burly's if it fits in a G2 too : https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/106774 )

The only problem that I see, you won't be able to drive this 3.7 [V] lamp assembly with primary 123's anymore.

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Yves
 

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168S with PILA 3.7v lamp+spring adapter works great.
About the same brightness of the P60. a bit less throw.

overall a nice package.
 

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In March I'll be posting beam shots in this forum, comparing three 3.7V Surefire P-compatible lamp assemblies:
  • Wolf Eyes old D26 (80 lumens)--same as old Pila 3.7V
  • Wolf Eyes new D26 (100 lumens)
  • G&P G5R (70 lumens)
For good measure, I'll include beam shots of three miniturbo 3.7V lamp assemblies:
  • old Wolf Eyes D36 80 lumens)
  • new Wolf Eyes D36 (100 lumens)
  • G&P G5R (70 lumens) in a Digilight extended-range reflector
 

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Paul, I think that the D26 LA 100 lumens is already at PTS,I just ordered one without problems

It will be interesting to see how the different lamp assemblies compare:popcorn:

AlexGT
 

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I don't agree with that. A P60 module has to work at a nominal voltage of 6 [v], a 168s has an average (working at high drain current) voltage of 3.6 [v]

any bulb will light up with just about any underdriven voltage, a P60 would probably make SOME light at 1.5V, it just wouldn't be very impressive... My G90 9V lamp will run off a single cr123 (3V)... and actually wouldn't make a bad pocket light driven by a single 17670(too yellow though)... Also- if you were to drive the P60 at exactly 6V, you would actually be overdriving it, as the lamps in these types of flashlights are designed with the foltage sag of lithiums in mind..

that said- the 3.7V lamps will be brighter and whiter than a P60 when driven by a 168s(17670)
 

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mdocod said:
any bulb will light up with just about any underdriven voltage, a P60 would probably make SOME light at 1.5V, it just wouldn't be very impressive... My G90 9V lamp will run off a single cr123 (3V)... and actually wouldn't make a bad pocket light driven by a single 17670(too yellow though)... Also- if you were to drive the P60 at exactly 6V, you would actually be overdriving it, as the lamps in these types of flashlights are designed with the foltage sag of lithiums in mind..

that said- the 3.7V lamps will be brighter and whiter than a P60 when driven by a 168s(17670)

You're completely right, driving a P60 with exactly 6 [V] could possibly overdrive it, as the manufacturers count on the internal resistance of the lithium cells. But if you drive a P60 with a single lithium-ion cell, it will be underdriven. The problem is that the lifetime of the bulb could be reduced due to under nominal temperature in the bulb (as it can happen with halogen)
 
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