Redefining "Flashlight as a weapon"

A friend of mine who knows I'm into flashlights sent me this link to someone's mad scientist creation. I'll let the pictures and its captions speak for itself, although you can probably guess what's in store just by reading the url.

http://www.techeblog.com/index.php/tech-gadget/shotgun-flashlight

Basic rule for guns #1, never point a gun at somebody unless you plan on shooting them. Light end of this faces forwards, gun end faces rear, towards owner. Hmmm.

These were made by Ares Defense Systems. They have not been made for at least 5 years. Originally they were sold under a BATF permit much like an automatic weapon. Very few were produced.

One obvious potential problem was removing the pin and shooting yourself at point blank range. I do like the concept though.

This would not be a very difficult thing to make for someone with a decent small machining center.

Group buy anyone?

Mark

I like the cell phone pistol. You'd be in real trouble if you ever got your phones mixed up.

Cliff

Interesting, they have a minimag version. TSA, anyone? :green:

Interesting. . .Don't know about this one—

I was in the midst of designing a Minimag that doubled as a weapon... you turn it on like you normally would and it would spew FIRE from the bezel. Design was coming along really well, except for two problems-- what if it turns itself on in your pocket, and would you be able to hold onto the light given the amount of fire and gas it'd spew out?

carrot said:

I was in the midst of designing a Minimag that doubled as a weapon... you turn it on like you normally would and it would spew FIRE from the bezel. Design was coming along really well, except for two problems-- what if it turns itself on in your pocket, and would you be able to hold onto the light given the amount of fire and gas it'd spew out?

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I think we've already got a few lights like this judging from the threads on CR123 venting I've seen. :green:

-LT

That would qualify as an AOW. Hard to buy without the paperwork and tax stamp. But man, I'd never want a gun that's carried pointing at _me_!

Reminds me of a line from the movie Casino Royale:

"This gun shoots backwards and I've just killed myself!"

Razor, I would just like to thank you for the sudden burst of nostalgia your avatar and name have given me.

Looks like some Virginia Tech engineering student(Blacksburg) hoped to go the way of self employment after graduation. I wonder how the field testing went .

MB

I remember those things! What a completely horrible idea. Almost as bad as the knife with the .22 in the handle. At least it pointed away from the user in most grips.

My biggest concern - aside from the basics of accidentaly getting shot by the thing - is, if one were to successfully fire it, wouldn't the kickback break a few wrists? I've never shot a shotgun before, but I'm guessing the full size gun has a stock that rests against the shoulder for a reason, not to mention having a lot more mass. Those criteria, and Newton's third law being what it is, I'd guess the power of discharging a shell from something with so little mass is going to do the user some injury as well.

AlexSchira said:

Razor, I would just like to thank you for the sudden burst of nostalgia your avatar and name have given me.

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Haha, you bet! I loved the Swat Kats. It was my favorite cartoon. Too bad they only made two seasons of it, before the TV big wigs pulled it for being "too violent". It's a walk in the park compared to some of the stuff on air today.

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My biggest concern - aside from the basics of accidentaly getting shot by the thing is, if one were to successfully fire it, wouldn't the kickback break a few wrists? I've never shot a shotgun before, but I'm guessing the full size gun has a stock that rests against the shoulder for a reason, not to mention having a lot more mass. Those criteria, and Newton's third law being what it is, I'd guess the power of discharging a shell from something with so little mass is going to do the user some injury as well.

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.410 guage should be quite manageable. I guess it would have been fired with two hands. Might be a little tough on the lamp filament.

I think the other obvious problems outweighed the recoil issue. Imagine a high stress situation combined with the natural tendency to light up what you are shooting. An interesting, but very dangerous design.

Mark

We've got two threads going on the same topic. We'll leave the one that's generated the most replies open, and close this one.