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This is smooth · Apr 21, 2006

See good flashlight :goodjob:

http://www.liteflux.com/english/

FirstDsent · Apr 21, 2006

Welcome to CPF This is smooth! Are you the vendor?

This light looks very interesting! The page was apparently computer-translated. Here is what I think it means:

Material CNC of aluminium alloy is made, the hard membrane positive pole is dealt with: 30uM

Means 30 micron thick HAIII finish. (Positive pole is interpreted from "anode(ized)")

The silica gel switch presses the button

Means silicone or rubber button on tailswitch.

Plate the membrane lens in optics

Means coated optics.

Tail push switch: It press - the bright /press not pressing - the permanent and bright

Means momentary on tactical clickie switch.

If I'm right, this may be an outstanding light for $31.50!
Someone get one of these quick and let us know! I'm tempted to get one now!

Bernie

Lucero · Apr 21, 2006

I have a great, great amount of respect for Chinese (substitute any non-English) people who have even a working knowledge of American/English. It's the most brutal language to attempt to learn because it seemingly breaks its own rules within the same sentence.

Dawg · Apr 21, 2006

Yeah, they look very intrigueing. Very Fenix like in a way.

abvidledUK · Apr 21, 2006

Fenix Clone ?

Looks like a Fenix clone, with 3w luxeon (clone?) in 2AA size.

RT Graphs, as supplied by Manufacturer / Retailer

http://www.liteflux.com/english/product_analy.php?act=1&index=1

Actually, I see this has already been covered in CPF, post 20 onwards

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/108100

A little confused, do you get One 1w/3w head, Two of 1 x AA bodies (1 being an extension) and 1 tailcap for $32 ?

It is wierd that when you place an order, you are momentarily directed through www.fenixlight.com !!!

It's a very similar website layout, with similar graphics, obviously some connection there somewhere.

Perhaps that is why Fenix's have just been reduced in price, with this torch on it's way soon !!

Protaeus · Apr 21, 2006

Everything on that website looks like a clone of fenix....including the website itself...

The only thing different is the fact that the website loads a little faster than the fenix one....

Im not sure that I entirely approve....

I suppose we'll see when the product is released

FirstDsent · Apr 21, 2006

Originally Posted by abvidledUK
A little confused, do you get One 1w/3w head, Two of 1 x AA bodies (1 being an extension) and 1 tailcap for $32 ?

I infer that it is a Luxeon III that is underdriven at 1 Watt on 1 X AA, and driven at 3 Watts using either the Li-Ion 14500, or 2 X AA primaries. It is conceiveable that this light is made by the same company that makes the Fenix line. It seems common in asian countries to make several individually marketed brands of small-run goods instead of expanding one popular product line. This is not as commonly done in the U.S. I'm not sure why this is.

Fenix is made in Shenzhen China, and LiteFlux is made in Taipei, Taiwan. I can think of dozens of U.S. companies that make their product line in different locations, including different countries. It is hard to know the nature of Asian manufacturing practices. Does one conglomerate produce dozens of recognizeable but independant popular brands of small-volume consumer goods like these? That is commonly done in the U.S, but mostly for mass, mass manufactured goods. Take Procter and Gamble for instance. If there were "soapaholics" out there, they could be arguing about which "company" is better, Dawn or Joy. They are both made by P&G, and possibly in different states. Their Websites are even different enough to suggest different companies altogether. In this case, P&G owns two competing products. They are (I think) #1, and #3 in total sales respectively.

In any case, the modularity of this light is more attractive to me than the Fenix. If it approaches the quality of Fenix, I'm sold. If I have this light, I won't want a Fenix. Oh yeah, and you get it all for around $32! Schweeet!

Bernie

Cliffnopus · Apr 21, 2006

Interesting light, great price.

Cliff

abvidledUK · Apr 21, 2006

Well, I've ordered one, let's see what happens now ...

D MacAlpine · Apr 22, 2006

Good translation Bernie, the site has been updated to your version now! (but it no longer mentions HAIII, only "aircraft grade aluminium")

abvidledUK - How did you order? I couldn't get past the "Join Member" page, the Chinese/English mix beat me. Does the price include international shipping?

Don

abvidledUK · Apr 22, 2006

D MacAlpine said:
abvidledUK - How did you order? I couldn't get past the "Join Member" page, the Chinese/English mix beat me.

Don

I can understand Chinese !!

nirad · Apr 22, 2006

I bet they are a Fenix witht the Liteflux name........Or maybe all this time we have had Liteflux flashlights with the Fenix name???? :ohgeez:

I have seen many Chinese products cross produced/distributed in this manner. We will have to wait to get a few in out mitts for further examination. :grin2:

ViReN · Apr 22, 2006

Reason behind fenix price drop?

I have always seen of chinese clone of chinese lights on chinese flashlight forum... but this is the first time i am seeing it on CPF ... oh by the way ... WorldLingo is a great translator

I just checked the source of the sight... and see this.. it's interesting

Code:

<title>[b]Mountech Co. Ltd[/b]</title>
<META content="Fenix, Fenix lights, Fenix flashlight, Fenix L1, Fenix L1P, led lights, led flashlight, led flashlights, led light" 
name=keywords>
<META content="Fenix aim to provide our products with advanced design, high quality, reasonable price and excellent service." name=description>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="fenix.css">

jwl · Apr 22, 2006

Viren - Good catch...Did they steal the entire web page from Fenix or are Fenix and LiteFlux one and the same?

ViReN · Apr 22, 2006

Code from Fenix's Home page at http://www.fenixlight.com

Code:

<html>
<head>
<title>Fenix Flashlight</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=gb2312">
<META content="Fenix, Fenix lights, Fenix flashlight, Fenix L1, Fenix L1P, led lights, led flashlight, led flashlights, led light" 
name=keywords>
<META content="Fenix aim to provide our products with advanced design, high quality, reasonable price and excellent service." name=description>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="fenix.css">
</head>

U Decide

ViReN · Apr 22, 2006

the recent update on the Fenix Clone Site at http://www.liteflux.com/english/product.php is

Code:

<html>
<head>
<title>LiteFlux Co. Ltd</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="Fenix, Fenix lights, Fenix flashlight, Fenix L1, Fenix L1P, led lights, led flashlight, led flashlights, led light" 
name=keywords>
<META content="Fenix aim to provide our products with advanced design, high quality, reasonable price and excellent service." name=description>
<link rel="stylesheet" href="fenix.css">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
a:link {
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:visited {
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:hover {
	text-decoration: none;
}
a:active {
	text-decoration: none;
}
.style1 {color: #FFFFFF}
.style2 {color: #FFFF00}
-->
</style></head>

I believe that since these lights are generated using CNC Lathes... there would have lot's of surplus left from the first generations... and it would be a loss to Fenix if they dont sell these off...

Also that, these are Early bird versions of Fenix Lights that Fenix wants to discount using a different name keeping the Fenix Brand image as a high quality Chinese Product.

Alloy Addict · Apr 24, 2006

Did anyone find anything else out about this company? I get a "Forbidden" screen when using their link now.

LEDcandle · Apr 24, 2006

Alloy, use the link Viren provided just above your post. The other one seems broken.

Omg, they blatantly ripped off Fenix's code and the whole flashlight. Maybe they got Fenix to OEM manufacture for their company and are selling it at a lower price. Maybe one of the Fenix dealers, or whoever else, can ask Fenix what's going on.

If a Countycomm offer can rustle their feathers so much, I wonder how about a blatant clone like that

LED_Thrift · Apr 24, 2006

The link in the first post gets you the "Forbidden" message. The link in the fifth post works, although in the left column of the site is the message:

Online shopping is unacceptable now!!! For additional information contact us Please . [email protected]

and I was unable to put anything in my "Shopping Car" [sic]

I guess the Chinese thought police are active on-line.

LEDcandle · Apr 25, 2006

They ripped the whole code and probably didn't change things like shopping cart links and contact addresses. Apparently some of us ordered (which means Fenix earned the $$s since it was linked to them) and thus now they've shut down the ordering and stuff.

So much for ripping off someone else's code

It does look like a interesting flashlight by itself with the nice extenders and stuff and good price.

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