D*** the molester!

vaism

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I'm still fuming from this. Around 1130pm just now, my mom was molested. A man came from behind her, as she was opening the door of my flat and grabbed her bosoms. She shouted and chased after him but he managed to escape.

We stay in a flat, she took the lift up alone, and as she walked along the corridor to our door, she heard footsteps behind. She thought it was me and didn't react until that man attacked and she was shocked and certain its not me. At that time of the night, i doubt it was a random attack.

I'm thinking that this scum probably has monitored my mom's activities, that she comes home late almost everynite. And waited in the stairwell just for her to return. My block is just opposite a town centre and is always bustling and full of traffic. So i doubt it should be a random attack, as the molester would instead find somewhere quieter and with less possibility of being caught.. I think my mom caught his fancy and prob. has been following her daily movements. i think that if he could have plotted this, he prob. also would be cunning enough to plan an escape after that, but i went ahead with a patrol of the area just in case he happened to be stupid. yes, and i brought my L4 along and really felt like catching this scum and giving him a good one.

A police report has been filed, but the police also did not have much useful tips or clues. Now, i hope that this is a random one-off case. But at the back of my mind, i seriously doubt that. What i will do now is to get hold of 2 pepper sprays, 1 for mom, 1 for girlfriend. I'm glad my mom did not took it too hard. She's shocked but not stirred.. :scowl: It's terrible that ladies can be scarred so easily by pervs.
 
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Pepper Spray is a good place to start, but not always as effective as you get your self with some blowback. That said I do regularly carry some. Judging by your language you live in a country that you can't protect yourself with a gun, so that's out.

Some women's unarmed defensive course would be a huge help. Everything from situational awareness to some empty hand strikes from different positions could be benneficial. Otherwise it's hard when you have a certain routine that you can't change.
Sorry to hear this, I hate scum that take advantage of others.
 

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vaism said:
I'm in Singapore. Ang Mo Kio town to be exact.
Wow, that is surprising. I've always had the impression that Singapore was a very quiet, low crime sort of place. If this guy got caught, what kind of trouble would he be in?
 

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Definitely get the pepper spray, but don't stop there. Folding knife? If not, then maybe a Surefire E2D defender. Good luck.
 

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Comparatively to many other countries, i think yes, crime rate is low.
I think he will get caned and jailed as a minimum. I'm trying to buy some pepper spray on ebay now. I suddenly realise how important it is for ladies to carry some immediate defense items. It could have been much worst as my mom was already opening the door..

For ladies, i dont' think a folding knife or such will be suitable. They prob. won't even get the chance to open up the knife and use it. And not to mention when in a struggle. I think the pepper spray should be ideal for them, no contact, simple squeeze action that would be easy to activate in a split second.
 
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Woah man, vaism, sorry to hear. Maybe you can ambush and catch him. Be careful if you choose this path though. Also for the pepper spray; might wanna consider cuz its not legal here.

Lightmeup, if he's caught, he'll prob be busted for assaulting with the intention to outrage modesty and get some caning.
 

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If you can order some Fox 5.3 OC spray, it's some of the best stuff out there and readily available. Also what about a Keychain Kubaton? I have a Streamlight Batonlite on one of my keychains. That way as she's nearing her flat she can just have her "keys" in hand. But a solid striking object deployed and ready to go.
 

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yes, i've thought of a little weapon too, but with her strength, i doubt it will even hurt the attacker much. At least the spray is effective even for weaker strength ppl. It really sucks when a family member gets bullied. I just wana catch and torture that scum of the earth. Ambush might only work when it's recurring, which is bad. but gives a chance to nab this criminal. I'll be on high alert frm now on, checking the stairwells more often and hope i get him before he strikes again.
I think the use of it in defence shouldn't pose too much a problem. illegal it is, but to a lady who is goin' to need this to protect herself, i doubt anyone is goin' to find a problem with that.
 
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D#@* it! Hope the scum get caught and caned. These things happens all the time. Even if you stay in a busy town central, the moment you stepped into a lift and before you enter your house. You're more or less alone and "helpless".

Even in crowded places, I've witnessed and nabbed a molester. On another occasion, been a victim of vehicle break-in. Having some form of self defence will be good. But I think pepper spray is illegal here(will check with my LEO buddy). Maybe you can get her a personal alarm, those that sounds off by pulling a cord/lanyard type. That should be good enough to due with most scums.

Glad that your mom did not took it too hard. Maybe you would like to fetch her from the carpark/bus-stop for the next few days. At the same time, you can look out for suspicous character/s. If he knows that someone is accompanying your mom home, he'll think twice about coming back.

I used to fetch my sister from the bus-stop everytime she worked late many many years ago..................Now, I don't have to worry anymore! :sssh: :p
 

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I read somewhere that perverts escalate from flashing to groping to raping. It sounds like this creep is at stage two.
 

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It's best not to over-inflate this.

First, it was probably random. A quiet spot in a busy bulding is a good place for such activity. The fact that he scared off so easy is an indiction that he might be just looking for a thrill.

Second, the "escalation" is true of those who do rape, not of those that do flash. Most perverts have been exposed to pornography, but only a very small percentage of people who have see a playboy ever escalate. It's important to look closely at cause and effect. Rapists generally start out doing less serious stuff. People who do less serious stuff seldom become rapists.

So don't upset your mom unduely. It was likly a random act by a guy who is in a pretty pathetic state. It's not likely to happen again. It's still a good idea to carry pepper spray if you travel after dark, whether male or female.

Daniel
 

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*singaporean mode*

wah piang eh! he nvr die before izzit? he kenna caught then very chiam liao.singapore leh, kenna caught comform 'mati' one

you sud(should) hide somewhere and ambush him BUT no hatam-ing you get many many fliend(friend) to help corner him then bring him to police. some vely vely blight flashlights will help.
 

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Not to sound like a *******, but it sounds like your mom needs a lesson in situational awareness. Never let anyone you do not know or can't see get close enough to harm you. Never assume the person coming up behind you is someone you know, always look to see who it is.

Situational awareness is our greatest self defense skill, whether we have a weapon or not.
 

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Yes, the essential is to be always aware of our surroundings, she usually returns much later than that and this has been for years which makes her quite complacent about being careful. She's been warned now..

I hope that incident was indeed random and a one-off thing. It's just an awful feeling that, this was all preconceived, he knew when her returning hours were, and worst still, that i wasn't at home.. I'm thinking of a little video camera to capture the corridor for any suspects.
 

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I find it usually useless to give women self defence items unless they ask for them. First off the OC is gonna be worthless unless it is in their hand and ready to be used when entering a building or questionable area.

Usually they keep it close by or in hand for a couple of days, then the complacancy sets back in and the unit ends up in the bottom of their purse, until they end up in a situation or experience circumstances that scare them and they frantically start digging to find it.

I would agree with the other poster. If you're really worried that she is being stalked, Patrol the building before she gets home to see if he is there hiding and waiting. Then if you find him, either call the cops or beat the crap out of him. Just be sure its the right guy, if you're gonna be a vigilante, be a responsible one.
 

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I read the title to this thread and thought it was going to be something WAY worse. I'm truly glad your mom "only" got groped. My only suggestion that hasn't already been mentioned would be to inform the other occupants of your building about what happened so that they can take their own precautions.



Cheers.
 

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Weapons can be useful, of course, if one has opportunity or time to make use of them. Acting cooperative too, might seem advantageous. But, in the eyes of the perpetrator it's a signal that they are under control, and gaining control is a significant part of their goal. Without hesitation, yell, scream kick, and scratch in a manner that attracts the most attention and inflicts the most lasting, damaging and permanent damage. Disregard any concern against excessively injuring the perpetrator. Leave them, regardless of the outcome, permanently scarred, blinded, neutered, and marked by evidence of the encounter. If constrained, give them dead weight to struggle with if nothing else is possible. Insure that they know they don't have control and that every second with you increases their chances of apprehension.
 

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Was the man masked? How old did your mother estimate him to be? You might want to bring a digital camera with quick-focus capability around the block before she gets back and snap the picture of anyone that looks the part. However, unless the man is obsessed or just stupid, he's unlikely to return.

Also, statistics show that most of the time, sexual crimes are comitted by people who already know the victim as a friend and accquaintance. There is also a very high chance that the offender lives nearby.
 
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