New Version of Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA Luxeon?

BuddTX

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Brightguy has 2 versions of the Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA Luxeon listed, the current version, available now, and a new version:

"ProPolymer 4AA LUXEON, Yellow Body, safety rated Class I Div 1 - available July, 2006"

It looks like the only visible difference is the safety ratings.

Anyone have any more info? Brighter is always better? Maybe longer run time?
 

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the new one has a K2 emitter in it

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just kidding :nana:
 

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jar3ds said:
the new one has a K2 emitter in it

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just kidding :nana:

That's not funny!!!:)
 

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Looks like that on Streamlight's site as well. They indicate that there are two versions, both of which are currently shipping. I wouldn't expect it to be anything other than changes in the construction to qualify it for Class 1 Div 1.

BuddTX said:
Brightguy has 2 versions of the Streamlight ProPolymer 4AA Luxeon listed, the current version, available now, and a new version:

"ProPolymer 4AA LUXEON, Yellow Body, safety rated Class I Div 1 - available July, 2006"

It looks like the only visible difference is the safety ratings.

Anyone have any more info? Brighter is always better? Maybe longer run time?
 

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I'm REALLY hoping they texture the reflector (though the currect ones have a pretty nice beam as it is) and put the 4 batts all side by side for a shorter body....
 

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KDOG3 said:
I'm REALLY hoping that they texture the reflector. . .
One can do simply do that themselves. Just make sure not to "mess up" that Lambertian(?) dome.

That's all.
 

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CHC said:
One can do simply do that themselves. Just make sure not to "mess up" that Lambertian(?) dome.

That's all.


But lets' face it, it will look better if done professionally. By "look better" I mean the beam will be nicer.
 

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I agree with you. No arguments there. I've done some "sputtering" to my "stock" reflectors and did achieve them SureFire-like beam quality. VERY NICE!

Enjoy!
 

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No kidding, especially since it's a metal reflector and part of a lamp assembly module.

... Come to think of it, I'm not in favor of texturing it, the light doesn't put out enough light to sacrifice a chunk to texturing right now, maybe when they come out with a K2 version?

KDOG3 said:
But lets' face it, it will look better if done professionally. By "look better" I mean the beam will be nicer.
 

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Brighteyez said:
... Come to think of it, I'm not in favor of texturing it, the light doesn't put out enough light to sacrifice a chunk to texturing right now, maybe when they come out with a K2 version?

my thoughts exactly. the appeal of the propolymer luxeon is its throw that is uncharacteriatic for the output it gives. Texturing it may make it lose some of its appeal in its niche market.
 

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Brighteyez said:
... Come to think of it, I'm not in favor of texturing it, the light doesn't put out enough light to sacrifice a chunk to texturing right now, maybe when they come out with a K2 version?

I agree. I like the beam the way it is, at this point.
 

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Anyone knows if the 4AA and 3C lamp assemblies are the same? ie, can i run the 3C module on 4AA? I'm thinking of making a custom body to have 4AA placed in parallel in a really short body. Probably just slightly thicker than the 3C body.
 
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x2x3x2 said:
Anyone knows if the 4AA and 3C lamp assemblies are the same? ie, can i run the 3C module on 4AA? I'm thinking of making a custom body to have 4AA placed in parallel in a really short body. Probably just slightly thicker than the 3C body.

Negative. Different circuits.
 

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I see, thanks, btw from the streamlight site the specs of the new/old version of the 3C lux have different runtimes too.

DIVISION 1: 4 hours continuous at full intensity. Up to 15 hours to 50% output intensity. Up to 24 hours to 25% output intensity.

DIVISION 2: 5.5 hours continuous at full intensity. 2 additional hours of declining output.
 

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x2x3x2 said:
I see, thanks, btw from the streamlight site the specs of the new/old version of the 3C lux have different runtimes too.

DIVISION 1: 4 hours continuous at full intensity. Up to 15 hours to 50% output intensity. Up to 24 hours to 25% output intensity.

DIVISION 2: 5.5 hours continuous at full intensity. 2 additional hours of declining output.

Improved regulation perhaps?

I was under the impression that the PP Lux was Division 1 rated already? (Of course i have been known to be wrong a time or two...just ask my wife :grin2: )
 

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x2x3x2 said:
I see, thanks, btw from the streamlight site the specs of the new/old version of the 3C lux have different runtimes too.

DIVISION 1: 4 hours continuous at full intensity. Up to 15 hours to 50% output intensity. Up to 24 hours to 25% output intensity.

DIVISION 2: 5.5 hours continuous at full intensity. 2 additional hours of declining output.

Thanks for the info on the 3C Div 1. I did not know it had 3 different output levels.
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Oops, now I see it is time to X % output, not 3 different levels. I guess I will wait till www.flashlightreviews.com does a review on the new DIV 1 3C model.
 
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The new version is now listed up on Fox-Intl.com and sells for $30.95. The regular version still sells for 24.95. Are the only differences in these two lights the safety rating? Are the output and runtime still the same?
 
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