Brown's gas

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Brown's gas

edit: scam alert... http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm#review

Klien/HHO Gas Could Revolutionize Energy Industry
"The patented process safely generates a molecularly stable hybrid hydrogen/oxygen gas (Klein/HHO) on demand from water. The gas is extremely environmentally friendly in that it has no polluting subgases when burned and produces only pure water in vapor form. It is currently being used to cut, weld, solder and fuse such materials as metal, plastics, ceramics and glass in commercial as well as artistic applications.

Unlike pure hydrogen gas, HHO gas remains highly stable, reducing the fear of explosions that often accompany pure hydrogen systems."

http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=576

http://hytechapps.com/aquygen/generator

http://www.atsnn.com/article/158213
 
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twentysixtwo

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Re: Klien/HHO Gas Could Revolutionize Energy Industry

Electrolytic conversion of water to hydrogen and oxygen. nothing new. As far as being safer than plain hydrogen, I don't think so except that it's produced in smaller amounts. Interesting as a way to get a gas torch from electricity and has some real advantages over acetylene which is pretty dangerous (Acetylene is explosive in almost any F/A mix, very unusual)

Use it to power your car? hardly. The efficiency losses in electrolysis and then burning the resulting mix are enormous.
 
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Re: Klien/HHO Gas Could Revolutionize Energy Industry

SCAM... Google Brown's Gas and see what you find...

It is just a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen gas from electrolysis. When burned, it produces steam/water. Not near as efficient at storing power as the average rechargeable battery. Can't store much (volume or pressure) because it will burn/detonate (it is a fuel-air mix). Early commercial units had problems with hydrogen embrittlement of steel fittings. Very little specific heat with gas--hydrogen and oxygen with certain substances can create "interesting" results--but nothing magical. Almost no real uses for gas/torch and cheaper to produce industrial gas using conventional techniques.

People associated with this are scamming folks for investment monies. Have gotten TV coverage for, what would be, a perpetual motion machine (claims about running cars on HHO gas).

-Bill
 
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Re: Klien/HHO Gas Could Revolutionize Energy Industry

Mythbusters had an episode not to long ago where they bought a kit off the internet which was supposed to take water and convert it to hydrogen to run the car. They were using an older car with a carburator in the experiment.

Obviously it didn't work. They then rolled out a cylinder of hydrogen to see if the car would run off of hydrogen. They had a hose spraying the gas down into the carb directly. The engine ran for a little while before it had a nice backfire and a few flames coming up out of the carb.
 

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brown gas? bromine vapor?!?!?
run run!!! the bromine vapor is poisionous!!
was doing the science in school. and got those on my hands.

my fingers are yellow!!!
 
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