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    Unhappy 9/11 - 5 years on

    Being some hours ahead of the USA, it's now the 11th September here in the UK.

    5 years as passed since the terrible attacks on the US....

    We, in the UK, share your grief and the tears, we taste the bitterness and we feel the anger....

    God bless those whose lives were taken on that day....we shall never forget them, we shall never forgive those that caused it....

    I'm proud to stand alongside you in these difficult times......

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    Default Re: 9/11 - 5 years on

    5 years have gone already since that horrible day...

    I think Gary pretty much said it all, and the same goes for me!


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    Me too.....

    Canada stands with the U.S.A.


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    Thanks Gary and very well put.

    My parents were Red Cross volunteers and spent several months in New York after the attack. I recall when they came back that they were so tired and worn down. They told me so many sad stories about the loss of first responders. It's a very sad ordeal and we should never forgot those who gave there life's trying to save others. We should never forget those who were innocent and just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. We should never forget that because we don't share the same religious belief as someone else that they feel that it is totally ok to murder or women and children. We should never forget that if we ever have chance to take them out that that is what we have to do.

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    I recall that horrible day like it was yesterday. I had been up all night on my computer, mostly doing things with MS Train Simulator, and around 8:45 that morning was ready to lie down for a few hours. Shortly after that my brother called. He mentioned that planes had hit the World Trade Center. Since nobody in my house watches TV or listens to radio that time of day I may well have been blissfully unaware of anything until dinner time had my brother not called. Anyway, soon afterwards I turned on the TV. My brother came over shortly after. At first I thought it may have been small planes but not after I saw the gaping holes in each of the buildings. Flashbacks showed the second plane slamming into the South Tower, confirming everyone's fears that this was a deliberate attack. As I saw the buildings burning I didn't think they would fall. I figured the dead were in the hundreds easily but once the fires went out the towers could be repaired.

    At 9:59 there were reports in the area of what sounded like an explosion. It took until the dust started clearing before much of the news media realized that the sound was of the South Tower collapsing. I sat stunned in disbelief. I knew if this one went then the other one probably would as well. At 10:29 the North Tower fell. There was no more World Trade Center. I went numb. Two huge buildings I had seen rise with my grandfather as a child were now in ruins. I didn't even want to think about how many deaths I had just seen on live television. The papers the day after said 10,000 possibly dead. Certainly there would be few if any survivors. How could anything possibly survive in a half million ton tidal wave of debris?

    In between when the towers were hit and when they collapsed Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon. It was clear the nation was under attack. All day long I kept wondering what was coming next. Was the WTC attack just a prelude to a nuclear blast in Midtown? The events of the day had made me think of this as a possibility. As what was left of the towers burned it seemed that other structures around them might follow. Seven World Trade Center was leaning badly. At 5:25 PM it went in another tidal wave of debris. For days afterwards authorities were unsure of the condition of quite a few other structures as well but fortunately none of them collapsed.

    I didn't sleep that night, or the next, or the one after that. Given the events I thought it probable that I might be facing my last time on this planet. I wanted the end to come with my eyes wide open. When I finally did sleep, nightmares awoke me. These persisted for months, as did an unsettling feeling every time I went to Manhattan that the structures there could suddenly collapse. And I shed endless tears looking at pictures of the victims.

    Two weeks after the attack I saw the destruction with my own eyes. Structures were full of debris up to their fifteenth floors. I saw parts of the towers embedded in the World Financial Center. I saw what was left of the outer shell of the towers. I smelled the horrible odor of burning debris and flesh. The air around the site was thick with the stench of death. Most horribly, I learned that my neighbor's 37 year old son, who had recently married and had an unborn son, had perished in the South Tower. Ironically he had left the building when the plane hit the North Tower but went back up because he had forgotten something. This person was someone I had known for over 22 years. I had sometimes ridden the subways with him when we were both in high school, he in Stuyvesant and me in Bronx Science. I had talked with him when he went to college. I saw him build a life for himself. I sadly saw it all crumble that day in an instant even though I didn't know until days later. His story was repeated over 3,000 times on that day.

    All we can do is to vow it never happens again.

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    It's already been 5 years ?

    Man; time does fly when you're not really that aware. I remember that day as well as my second week as a Freshman in High School. The morning began like any other morning with me running a bit late and rushing to catch the bus. I noticed how everyone was a bit silent but I still had difficulty hearing the radio and was wondering "an accident ?"

    I didn't hear the rest of the news until the morning announcements at school. From then on; our school always did the pledge of alligence every morning and further Sept 11 dates had the moment of silence during 2nd period.

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    It is so hard to sleep.

    Today, driving thru a newer subdivision I pulled over, caught up on some notes when I heard, Sir? this is for you! A little girl with a small plastic flag and a flower, handed them to me and said "thank you".
    Her mother, up on her porch was all smiles.
    THAT is what makes me do my job everyday.

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    JTR1962 summs it up for a NYer fairly well, except I was in Manhattan, at work, for one of those said Network News

    We have footage we have never shown, and never WILL.

    The thing that he mentions, and that folks who were NOT saw, within 30 miles of NYC probably don't realize is the SMELL. For WEEKS, if not months. When I got home to my wife and Family on the night of 9/11, I met my wife who worked on Long Island. (We live about 3 miles east of where JTR1962 lives) She asked me "whats that smell" (mind you were were basically cross wind to tho "Ground Zero") I remember sadly turning towards her and saying "The World Trade Center burning"

    Soon after, I joined some volunteer disaster groups, but I avoided Ground Zero. The first time I saw it was 9/11/2002, for the 1 year memorial cerimony. I was stationed at a water/snack table for the families about 100 yards from the top of the ramp.

    Got to stop now... Crying

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    I still can't believe it's 5 years!


    One sad day that opened the eyes of America.


    God Bless the USA!!!!!

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    I usually try to avoid remembering 9/11 b/c the pains have never subsided. But, I will never forget that day and what I was doing, or the day after when I learned that someone that I had known well had died when her plane hit one of the towers. I am always at a mix of emotions, anger, fear, sadness, etc. Today will be another somber reminder of how our lives changed 5 years ago.
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    i'm listening to the play by play from the Stern show right now. It's amazing how much stuff they hear and saw (in plain view of the towers) in contrast to reports.

    Sad ...Sad day


    Also... 9/11 was when I first started using an EDC flashlight. I pulled out my Stinger and .40 and prob didn't stop carriing the .40 in 2 months. The EDC obv. I still have....


    I have more stories of what went on that day but can't get up to writing it
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    A follow up - had a very surreal experience today. I don't know if you are following the weather from NYC today, but its very similar to 9/11/01 - add just a few puffy clouds..

    Well, there was a track fire in Penn Station this morning (pre-rush hour) - when you got in to Penn Station - wham - there it was - a similar smell to 9/11 - an acrid wood/electrical/plastic burning smell. Of course it was NOT the same - no concrete dust, and most importantly, no sickly sweet smell of burning flesh, but damm, it was close enough to bring back some not so good memories of that day, and the play back of that day in the background isn't helping (can't turn it off - I work at one of the networks, and the person has to have it on for work - I've shut my door)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzerick
    i'm listening to the play by play from the Stern show right now. It's amazing how much stuff they hear and saw (in plain view of the towers) in contrast to reports.
    I too was listening to some of that, and was listening to the live report that morning on my drive into work. It was that report that made me stop at a Dunkin Donuts that I knew had a television in there and saw the news. I then drove into work as fast as possible to catch the reports there.....left shortly after and went home. I wasn't sure what was going on, but was not hanging around in the city.
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    Probably after the death of my father the saddest day of my life, I fought hard to suppress my rage and anger. The longer the problem lasts and we do nothing the more we will punish ourselves. We are too politically correct to admit we are at WAR!
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    Being some hours ahead of the USA, it's now the 11th September here in the UK.

    5 years as passed since the terrible attacks on the US....

    We, in the UK, share your grief and the tears, we taste the bitterness and we feel the anger....

    God bless those whose lives were taken on that day....we shall never forget them, we shall never forgive those that caused it....

    I'm proud to stand alongside you in these difficult times......

    Gary

    Well said Gary - 100% agreement with everything you posted.

    9/11 & all other Islamist attrocities against innocent human beings should never be forgotten, they should never be forgiven either.


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    I think I would have had a tough time holding back tears after the little girl left.

    Quote Originally Posted by ohiocopper
    Today, driving thru a newer subdivision I pulled over, caught up on some notes when I heard, Sir? this is for you! A little girl with a small plastic flag and a flower, handed them to me and said "thank you".
    Her mother, up on her porch was all smiles.

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    Same here. I only knew one person who met their demise that day, and it's been a very painful day today. I can only imagine how it must be for those who lost large groups of acquaintances, friends or multiple family members.

    Quote Originally Posted by RemingtonBPD
    I usually try to avoid remembering 9/11 b/c the pains have never subsided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brighteyez
    I think I would have had a tough time holding back tears after the little girl left.

    Trust me, it was very hard.
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    I was awoken by the 1st plane crash. Felt the concussions in my apartment. Turned on the T.V.. Still groggy and blurry eyed, I didn't realize what was going on until the second plane crashed; Felt that collision even more. I watched the Towers that always marked where my home was along the NYC skyline burning from my balcony. I knew it was terrorism, thought it was bad, but still didn't think it was that bad. The WTC has previously survived a plane crash and a bombing in an underground garage; I thought it would survive this too. Then from my balcony, I saw the first tower start to collapse. That was when the shock and panic hit me. I felt the tower crumble, I saw the dust cloud rise. Mad dash inside to close all the windows and stuff all the vent hole that would let the dust in. It goes dark for half an hour. Tried to make phone calls, but couldn't get through. Cell phones not working, landline gets busy signals. What to do? What can I do? I glue myself to the T.V. now. Second tower comes down. The darkness comes again. What do I do? Where do I go? Should I go to the hospital and donate blood? Can I leave my mother alone? I decide I can't. I remember making that decision. I try and act calm, but my heart is pounding. Still don't know what to do or where to go. Hear a neighbor close thier door. I dash out there to ask if he had more info. He didn't. He was just leaving. I didn't see my apartment, my balcony or the view of where the Towers once stood, again, until 2002.
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    Default Re: 9/11 - 5 years on

    These images of the lights shining into the skies are amazing and seem to represent a powerful and symbolic message.









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    What a wonderful idea, the lights look as if they are going right up to heaven.


    I wonder if thats the same kind of light that is on top of the Luxor in LV? Some serious lumens there.

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    Yesterday (09/11/06) I was sitting in the same spot I was when we heard of the horrible tragedy taking place in New York. We were put on standby because we knew of all the airplanes being diverted to Toronto and thought there may be some possible problems at the airport with so many unexpected planes and people. We sat by the radio all day (no TV in our office).

    That day affected me quite a bit, particularly because so many brave and innocent people lost their lives trying to save others, in the face of an act that was purely evil.

    I visited Ground Zero sometime after it was all cleaned up and purchased a picture for my office, a before and after black and white, the after photo shows the two beams of light projecting straight up into the night sky. It's on my wall in front of my desk and I see it everyday.

    I wish our country did more, but know that many of us feel just as affected as you do.

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    Great pics, haz!

    I wish they would do something like that permanently on the site.

    I just finished a book called The Resiliant City. It is a great read about how cities have come back after disasters throughout history. Many patterns seem to repeat themselves endlessly. One of them is infighting about the physical memorialization of those who died. Through the history of disasters very nearly every final decision on memorialization has been bitterly contested by one group or another. Often the final result may seem pretty strange, particularly with the passage of a few years.

    I like the current use of lights very much.

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    Default Thanks for a small but meaningful gesture Canada

    I remember 9/11 so well, and one small kindness by strangers in another country made all the difference on a terrible day. A friend I went through college with was lost that day, and I was pretty stunned, sad, mad, scared, who knows all of the emotions, basicaly it felt like my head was packed with cotton, rational thought was hard to come by.

    My wife was working, and ended up having to pull a double that day because of what occured and people calling in, so I went down and sat by the St Clair River under the Blue Water Bridge as darkness started to fall, across from Sarnia Ontario Canada. It is a good place to sit and just chill watching the water. Suddenly I heard a large group of Canadians on the other shore singing God Bless America, it was the most beautiful touching gesture I ever experienced, and it helped more than I could ever say. And I still well up when I think of it.
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    Default Re: Thanks for a small but meaningful gesture Canada

    We still lived in Houston proper. I lived three blocks from my Dad. We "worked" out of Dads house.

    I left home at about 7:50AM not aware of anything. I walked into the house and he was glued to the TV. Not long after that the second plane hit.

    I towed our tank trailer to Shepherd that morning. I had my 870 in the back seat. I don't remember actually driving.

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    My cousin was a veteran PAPD during 9/11. He spent months working to identify body parts, etc. He battled severe depression after. A few weeks ago he took his own life. Regardless of what people's religious convictions are, I believe he is with all those he lost. In spirit he will always be with us.

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    JTR1962 summed it very well. I worked in the city then, I had accounts downtown. In fact one of my major accounts had just moved into the south tower September 8. One of the banks I dealt with set up a few blocks away. I made a call in early October, they were just north of Canal Street, You could get to the area at that time, the smoke and the smell were still there, the fires were still burning.

    One of my neighbors was one of the firemen lost in the collapse, His wife had died the year before from cancer leaving their 15 year old daughter.

    There have been a number of movies, cable TV shows and other new reports over the last few weeks, I can't watch any of it. I saw it all as it happened, I could see the smoke from my house on Long Island..

    Going into the city by train there were the missing persons posters all over Penn Station, these were the people who perished in the collapse, The posters, pictures stayed there for months

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    Yes, it was a sad day. I remember how it began for me. I was assembling a communications antenna and heard the roar of aircraft engines as the Otis ANG base runway is only 2 miles away. Two F-15A fighters passed over my house and went supersonic immediately with a blast that shook the ground. Normally that would be forbidden due to noise abatement rules. If I close my eyes, I can still see the the Sparrow II and Sidewinder missles hanging on the aircraft against a beautiful blue sky of that morning. I knew something was very wrong, but had no idea that it was the first Combat air mission in a very long and uncertain war.....

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    Oh yeah, this reminds me of something.

    "Two F-15A fighters passed over my house and went supersonic immediately with a blast that shook the ground."

    The powers that be have decided the F-16s will be removed from Ellington Field in South Houston. The F-16s that are just minutes from downtown or the ship channel.

    I don't think for a moment that there would be a whole lot they could do in an emergency like a suicide bombing or the like.... but I DO believe they serve as a deterent of sorts.

    Now F-15s from New Orleans or F-16s from San Antonio will be sucking fumes when the get here a little TOO late!
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