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    I recently purchased my L4 and I can't stop hovering over the "buy now" button! Please tell me why I shouldn't get this light and help me quick!

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    welcome to cpf let me help you there. the L4 is a nice flood light, and I find that a flood light is usually the most useful light in most situations. the E1L (new ones) has a TIR collimator optic which turns this cute little light into a throw monster for its size (note it will have almost ZERO sidespill). If you dont need to see things further out in the distance, then theres no "need" to get it, the L4 will nicely light up the immediate surroundings.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    I don't hv a E1L but I hv a Inova T3 which also uses a TIR optic. The beam is very focus with almost no side spill. Needless to say, throw is good. It's excellent for spotting things further out, but for everyday use, it's quite limited. I am not sure whether you will like E1L kind of focus beam or not.

    Hmm......u got an L4.......tat's one excellent light!
    Last edited by flame2000; 10-12-2006 at 05:35 AM.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    The L4 is really nice and so is the E1l, if youre lucky the KL4 head will work on the e1l body and vice versa so you'll have 4 torches for the price of 2

    The E1l has longer runtime and a very different beam to the L4, you really need them both they compliment each other rather well. Sorry!
    Last edited by jason_01; 10-12-2006 at 08:46 AM.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Ive got an E1L and i love it. I edc it everywhere. If your worried about the throw just buy an F04. Thats what i did and it is the perfect combination.

    I do not believe that the Kl4 will work on the E series body, correct me if im wrong.
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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    oh well...looks like your headed down the E1L alley my friend!

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quote Originally Posted by redskins38
    Ive got an E1L and i love it. I edc it everywhere. If your worried about the throw just buy an F04. Thats what i did and it is the perfect combination.

    I do not believe that the Kl4 will work on the E series body, correct me if im wrong.
    It will fit, the L4 body is basically an E2e body with a short clip I think. Not all KL4's will work on 1 cell but most do from what I can gather, mine does.

    I have a KL1 on a E1e body (short clip) didnt expect to like it as much as the L4 but I do, if you have them both you also have the option of rechargeables.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    I won't stop you. I have both too.

    Think of the possibilities.

    I'm planning to buy some rechargeables and have the option of a TW4 configuration with the KL4 head on the E1L body.

    With the E1L and L4, you'll have lots of options for Surefire Lego

    You can also do the following
    KL1 + L4 body (longer runtime)
    KL4 + E1L body with RCR123
    stock E1L + F04 diffuser (a must have IMO)

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowbuds
    I recently purchased my L4 and I can't stop hovering over the "buy now" button! Please tell me why I shouldn't get this light and help me quick!
    you shouldn't get this light?


    questions like this won't get answered on the forum....mostly like you'll wind up buying both

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    Two words: BUY IT!



    I bought an E1L not too long ago and it's a great light. The lack of sidespill is fine (as another posted, you can buy a diffuser accessory) with me; I've got other, smaller lights for close-up flood work. This thing is built like a tank!

    I'm still amazed that something this small can generate that much light.

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    By the way, putting an F04 beamshaper on the E1L will make it somewhat like a mini-L4, imo
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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quite fighting the urges and give in! The E1L is a great partner to your L4, especially with the SF beamshaper. Enjoy.

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    I agree with fnmag! You need it! You need it! You need it! And then after that
    Surefire has plenty of other thing's you need as well. You can buy an extra KL1
    head and get it modded too! I'm having gnarmin do one for me now. And then
    you'll be hooked forever!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation
    you shouldn't get this light?


    questions like this won't get answered on the forum....mostly like you'll wind up buying both
    THE ONLY HELP! I was hoping for reasons not to buy it... everyone seems to love their E1L and now they're giving me more stuff/things to do with it... I think i'm going to have to give in.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Could you not add a E2L body for extended runtime and an extended pocket clip too?

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    But he has the L4, which is the same as having an E2L body. He can always ask for a long pocket clip from Surefire CS.
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    I learned something new today....

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    As mentioned with the L4 and E1L, you'll have 4 lights:
    L4
    E1L
    E2L (L4 body + KL1 head)
    TW4 (E1L body + KL4 head)

    The two lights complement each other well.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    go press the BUY button! youll have an L4 for flood, E1L for EDC plus throw, and you can swap the KL4 head into the E1L body and have a TW4. great combo, hard to beat!

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    Poor willpower + CPF = bad

    E1L is on the way!

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    Surefire Legos are the best. I have the L4 and the E1L. They are a good pair. Throw and flood, yin and yang. The F04 beamshaper is very useful.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowbuds
    Poor willpower + CPF = bad

    E1L is on the way!
    Congrats! I think you are going to love it! Even though I have quite a few other SF lights, the E1L and L1 (same beam, just a two stage light) are the ones I carry and use most of the time.
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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Bo,
    do you know if the L1 switch fits-and works on other bodies?E1L or L4 body?

    Thanks,Alex

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    i dont believe so. the L4 is a clicky so youll have to mod it or change to a mce2s tailcap if you want dual output.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quote Originally Posted by boef800
    Bo,
    do you know if the L1 switch fits-and works on other bodies?E1L or L4 body?

    Thanks,Alex
    It doesn't. The L1 body is a larger diameter than the E-series bodies and has a different thread.
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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Such a pitty.Reading through the thread this idea came suddenly to my mind if it wouldn't work.
    Thanks,Alex

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    Have fun shadowbuds! You are getting your CPF soma. Soon you will have L1,L2
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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Don't really know if your aware but you will need to use a rechargeable to run the L4 on the one cell body.

    Heres a tease while you wait.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Quote Originally Posted by photorob
    Don't really know if your aware but you will need to use a rechargeable to run the L4 on the one cell body.

    Heres a tease while you wait.
    Not neccesarily, have my KL4 in hand now and its running fine on 1 Energizer primary.

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    Default Re: Surefire E1L Outdoorsman

    Some KL4s will run dimly on 1 CR123 primary. It depends on the Vf of the LED. But I believe all KL4s will run in regulation for about 20 minutes on 1 RCR123 rechargeable in a 1 cell body. The KL4 will also run on 1 17670 rechargeable in a 2 cell body. The KL1 will run on anything from 3 to 9 volts that you can find a body to hold. 1, 2, or 3 CR123s; 1 or 2 RCR123s; 1 or 2 17670s although the only e series bodies I've seen that hold 3 CR123s or 2 17670s are custom.
    Last edited by ksc73164; 12-20-2006 at 01:04 PM.

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