photorob said:I'm a little confused here. Since when are U2's hard to come by. They are everywere.
daveman said:I had been eyeing the U2 for the longest time, but now that XR-Es are out, U2's lux Vs are yesterday's technology with 3 times the askig price it deserves.
Assuming you're not yanking my chains, XR-Es are a new breed of LED recently (very recent) introduced by Cree, one of Lumilled's few competitors. The XR-Es are much, much brighter than any Lux I, III, or Vs from Lumilled, while using roughly half the current to generate that impressive output. These LEDs do require specially designed reflector/optics to project their beams in useful patterns, so I have only seen two lights with XR-Es as of today. But with the highest bin of XR-Es (Q3), 100 lumens a watt is now reality.Miracle said:hello daveman,
what is this XR-Es?
:huh2:
daveman said:Assuming you're not yanking my chains, XR-Es are a new breed of LED recently (very recent) introduced by Cree, one of Lumilled's few competitors. The XR-Es are much, much brighter than any Lux I, III, or Vs from Lumilled, while using roughly half the current to generate that impressive output. These LEDs do require specially designed reflector/optics to project their beams in useful patterns, so I have only seen two lights with XR-Es as of today. But with the highest bin of XR-Es (Q3), 100 lumens a watt is now reality.
This is why I would not buy a SF, or any Luxeon based lights now without heavy discounts; they're already obsolete!
LED61 said:All so true, but it will be some time before a major reputable manufacturer offers a decent flashlight using the CREE XR-E. There is a thread in the LED forum regarding "panic selling" of current LUX products that just about everyone has dismissed.
This is why I would not buy a SF, or any Luxeon based lights now without heavy discounts; they're already obsolete!
How should I put this? Current generation of Lux IIIs and Vs are not obsolete to use, but obsolote to buy. There...Mike89 said:I hardly think the Luxeon is obsolete or will be any time soon. There is still plenty a market for them. Seems many are flipping over backwards for this cree when it is still quite likely a ways before it's mainstream. Sure you can buy a modded one now if you want to pay $240 for the novelty to own one. Right now I can't in any way justify that kind of money when my trusty L2T suits my needs fine right now. $240 vs $40 is sure not giving me that much more light for the difference in price. I'll wait awhile for the price to come way down and in the meantime be quite content with what I have now.
Sorry, I'm just not in a tizzy right now over this thing like a lot here seem to be. Don't get me wrong, I like more light just as much as the next guy, but it doesn't make me frown now when I turn on what I got.
You're two days too late...KROMATICS said:By all means send your now worthless Luxeon based lights to me.