New Fenix Digital Series! P1D and P1D CE with Cree XR-E !!

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4sevens

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I'm proud to announce on behalf of Fenix, two new Fenix's to add to their
expansive product line. The P1D and the P1D CE. The digital series sports a
microprocessor controlled CURRENT regulated drivers with 5 modes of operation!

From a simple twist operation, the P1D will easily toggle through 5 modes:
Primary -> Max -> Low -> Strobe Mode -> S.O.S Mode

This allows for the user to select the best compromise between brightness
and runtime for any give task. The last two special modes can be used
to aid in an emergency. The P1D does all this in an amazingly compact size.

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If you're looking for the ultimate in solid reliability, digitally regulated
brightness, and unprecedented compact size for all that the P1D offers, then
this Fenix is for you :)

Specifications:


P1D
• Powered by a premium T-binned Luxeon III LED
• 5 Output Levels: 40 lumens (2.8hrs) -> 70 lumens (1hrs) -> 7 lumens (21hrs) -> Strobe -> SOS

P1D CE (Cree Edition)
• Powered by a Cree 7090 XR-E LED
• 5 Output Levels: 72 lumens (2.8hrs) -> 135 lumens (1hrs) -> 12 lumens (21hrs) -> Strobe -> SOS

Both models:
• Digitally Regulated for Constant Brightness
• Uses one CR123A battery
• 7.1cm (L) x 2.1cm (D)
• Made of aircraft grade aluminum
• Durable Type III hard anodized finish
• 27-gram weight (excluding batteries)
• Water-resistant
• Chemically Toughened ultra clear glass lens with AR coating
• Reliable twist switch
• Capable of standing up securely on a flat surface to serve as a candle

Simple Operation:
Turn the head of the flashlight clockwise to turn on the flashlight. A counter clockwise turn will then switch it off.

To toggle between brightness levels, turn the light on, and then turn it off. Within 1.5 seconds after being turned off, twist the head on again and it will be switched to the next brightness level. Do the same thing to switch it to the third stage and so forth.

Keep the light off for over 1.5 seconds, and the light will turn completely off and it will default to the primary mode the next time you turn it on.

Fenix is relentlessly working to put leading edge L.E.D. technology into your
hot little hands without burning a hole in your wallet. It is Fenix's philosophy
to produce the most advanced flashlight available and yet make it affordable.
The digital series P1D and P1D CE are such examples of their innovative
design and manufacturing technology.
:thumbsup:


Both models will be available in both black and natural.
Price is not yet announced. Availability will be before the end of November.
Fenix-Store.com immediately will stock all models and finishes for lightning
fast shipping as usual.

:party:

Here are some more teaser pictures as well as some beamshots:
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Notice the P1D will have a more focused hotspot with more throw,
Meanwhile the P1D CE will have a bigger hotspot with a slightly narrower
yet brighter flood.
On the left is the P1D, on the right is the P1D CE
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Here are some beam shots from a distance to give you an idea
of the beam spread and flood. Pictures are a bit underexposed so
the target is not saturated.
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:D :D :D

**** Questions and Answers (updated periodically as more questions come up and when I get answers :) ) ****

Q: How much will it cost
A: P1D $49.95, P1D CE $69.95

Q: Is it PWM.
A: No. It's current regulation. Let me repeat, it is NOT using PWM, so
no subtle strobing on all levels. It is current regulated on all levels.

Q: When will it be available?
A: P1D's are on pre-order until beginning of December. I will maintain stock
of the P1D's. The P1D CE's are on pre-order until beginning of January for the
second batch. All 200 from the first batch have been taken. All orders
less than #6431 will be in the first 200 batch. The second
batch may come earlier depending on XR-E availability, but currently the ETA
is beginning of January.

Q: Where can I purchase it?
A: Any authorized Fenix dealer. However I prefer that you order from me
for obvious reasons. You can pre-order them here P1D and P1D CE

Q: Will hold a pre-sale?
A: Fenix-store is currently holding a pre-sale for the second batch with an ETA of the beginning of Janurary.

Q: How do I know if I got in on the first 200 pre-sale?
A: If you checked out and it didn't say item is not in stock, then you're in :)

Q: Will P1D support RCR123a
A: Yes, it will work however, the three levels will not be regulated. Exact
behavior is yet to be reported.


Q: What bin does the P1D CE use?
A: I don't know and I doubt they will ever publish or guarantee such.
However I do know they have a reel of P3 WC's Please don't ask.
Asking and answering such questions just causes trouble. But I'm sure
they as well as everyone are looking for better and brighter bins.

Q: Is Fenix P1D CE, the XR-E based light properly thermally managed?
A: You mean is the thermal path designed right and proper thermal paste
or reflow solder applied. I dunno. I haven't disassembled one. Yet. I
am pretty sure on the primary mode, the current setting is appropriate
to the mass of the light - just like the P1 has the perfect balance of
runtime and brightness... any more the light would overheat. (thats
why I don't get why people use rcr123a in their P1's that make
the light scortching hot after 5 minutes with only 45 minutes of runtime.
Versus the P1 on primaries running a fully regulated 2 hour run with
oodles of light to use) I digress.

Or do you mean is there a thermal sensor feeding back to the circuit.
I dunno.

Q: Is the XR-E using the MCPCB?
A: No.

Q: Will Fenix change the 5 modes to the variations suggested by so many.
A: I dunno. I just know if they are to meet the demand I'm sure production
is happening now. They've already set things in motion and to change things
with all this momentum is counter-productive. This does not mean they
won't have other versions out in the future. Anyway, I'm not speaking
officially here... Just speaking the obvious.

Q: What exactly does "digitally regulated brightness" mean?
A: That means a microprocessor controls the constant current
boost circuit to output at set current levels. Unless I misunderstood them
(I'm 99% sure), all levels are constant current regulated.
The microprocessor end just responds to the on-off action and sets the
output accordingly. VIREN, "digitally regulated brightness" does NOT mean
PWM. :)

Q: Will there be a AA based current regulated Fenix light.
A: There is no word anything like this, but I wouldn't doubt that somethings
cooking. I'll update this entry when there is.

**pricing and update post here: pricing announcement and details
 
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Looks Fantastic! Fenix has really done it this time. Any idea when these will reach the dealers?

Thanks for the pics!

EDIT: just read that they will be here in November
 
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xdanx said:
Looks Fantastic! Fenix has really done it this time. Any idea when these will reach the dealers?

Thanks for the pics!

They are promising by the end of November. I'm sure I'll be the first to have
them ready to fly out the door :) I'm ordering enough to go through
the end of the year. These are really amazing and will be really hot items! :D
 

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Brilliant! Now that's a light!

I think this exact thing was proposed when the L0P SE came out. Fairly convincing evidence that Fenix reads this board carefully.

With that in mind: Fenix, please make a type III anodized 1AA light in natural rather than black with at least two stages using the same Cree LED or the same in stainless for around $40. It can be the L1T SE or something. :naughty: I'll buy the first one.

Thanks,
Kevin
 

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price :D we wanna know the price and does it take rcr123a?

I personally don't own any Fenix lights. But I think if these new lights can use RCR123 batteries, then I'll be sold. If someone knows that would be great. :)
 

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I'll immediately purchase a P1D CE, but I don't feel the least bit bad about the FF3 that I just bought.

it's a work of art. the machining is almost perfect!



anybody want to start the guessing @ prices?
 

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kevinm said:
Brilliant! Now that's a light!
With that in mind: Fenix, please make a type III anodized 1AA light in natural rather than black with at least two stages using the same Cree LED or the same in stainless for around $40. It can be the L1T SE or something. :naughty: I'll buy the first one.

Thanks,
Kevin

I'll go for that!
These Cree LED's are really just a lot more efficient aren't they.
 

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I'd really like to see the Cree version stacked up against some other common lux lights... ideally, on FLR with overall output figures to compare... if the price is right and the brightness is crazy, i'll be all over this!!!
 

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OMG! Wow! Fenix is FAST! I wasn't expecting any company to have something out until next year.

The important things I want to know are:
1. Price? If it's too expensive, a small part of my brain will make me put down my credit card.. :(
2. Will it support RCR123? I play with my lights for no reason and would love rechargeable battery support.
3. Runtime graphs? I love runtime graphs!
4. The early testers were having troubles using reflectors for the XR-E. I assume this has been solved?
 

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does any kind souls have online video of the strobe effect of the cree version?

How many lumens is the strobe mode?

Does the non cree version n the cree version look the same hardware wise?

I cannot find any warranty info on the Fenix web site. Does Fenix have the usuall Lifetime limited warranty?

:huh2:
 
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mdocod said:
I'd really like to see the Cree version stacked up against some other common lux lights... ideally, on FLR with overall output figures to compare... if the price is right and the brightness is crazy, i'll be all over this!!!

Maybe QuickBeam will consider coming out of his reviewing vacation to do another review of this for us. :)
 

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This is what we are expecting, but I personally don't really want that many modes to switch/rotate around, gimme Max and Low mode and a relative low price and I will be happy and probably buy one for everyone of my friends.

PS Rechargeable compatible is a MUST
 

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Hope Fenix comes out with a L0D-CE and V1D-CE soon. Don't want to get into the pricey and more explosive prone CR123A batteries unless I have to.

I would not worry too much about the price. The L0P-SE was introduced at a LOWER price ($39) than the original L0P ($47.95). Allowing for a XR-E premium I do not expect a L0P-SE-XRE to be more expensive than the original L0P. Same for the P1D and P1D-CE. Unless you want one in titamium.....
 
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Well it seems many of us here were correct is guessing Fenix would be the first one to commercially produce a light using the new Cree. As temping as this is, I'm going to wait a bit for a single AA version.
 
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