4D cell K2 Magmodding step by step with a megabyte of pics to show you how.

3rd_shift

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Also see my newer and harder 3c Cree XRE Maglite modding with a megabyte of pics to show you how.

See that 4D magled at the top?
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That's the one getting modded today.

Time to get some tools out.
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You need to make your reflector look like this nice and neat.
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Take off the switch boot without tearing it up.
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Use a 5/64rths allen wrench to loosen the switch assembly like this.
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Use something long to gently send the loosened switch assembly down and out of the barrel.
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Use that 5/64 allen wrench again to take off the switch assembly roller.
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The bulb holder guts easily come out now.
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Cut off the top of the plastic bulb tower and bend the (-) tab over like this.
I already pre-soldered it for a later step.
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Cut a 4 inch (-) wire and a 5 inch (+) 22-24 guage wires of different colors.
Strip off thier ends leaving about 3-5 millimeters of bare wire.
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This is important.
Get some extra rosin flux and and apply it to where the wires are going.
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Solder the wires to the chopped switch assembly like this.
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These parts now need to come together.
A 5 watt 1 ohm resistor is being used this time around.
The UWON bin K2 led came from member photonfanatic in the dealers' corner.
Here is his home website. www.photonfanatic.com
The heatsink came from here by member H22A.
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/120417
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Mix up some Arctic Alumina and apply it to the center of the heatsink where the led is going and stick on the led.
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Make sure to "bulls-eye" the led dead center like this when sticking it on and let the adhesive set.
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Re-install the wired switch assembly.
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Cut another 2 inch piece of 22-24 guage wire and strip off 3-5 millimeters off it's ends.
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Bend the led's leads well clear of the heatsink.
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Without shorting the battery, use a 3 volt battery to find out the led's polarity if you don't already know it.
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Put that 2 inch pice of wire through the heatsink on the (-) side of the led like this.
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Watch how the resistor was installed.
Regular 2 part epoxy was used.
The (-) input side is closest to the heatsink.
The (-) going to the led is cautiously away from the heatsink with a piece of paper inserted over there.
The other end of that 2 inch wire then got soldered to the resistor's "output" side leading to the led's (-).
Allow the resistor's adhesive time to set.
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Time to put the heatsink assembly into the flashlight.
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Put the red wire through the heatsink to be soldered to the led's (+) on top.
Solder the (-) wire to the resistor's (-) input side nearest the heatsink.
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Solder the red wire to the led's (+).
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"Deep breath"
Load the batteries into the tube without the tailcap and measure the current with a dc ampmeter.
1.2 amps looks good for this UWON bin 1.4 amp rated Lumileds K2 led.
It's not overdriven even with fresh batteries.
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Now that we know it works, now we can make a mess like this.
This step is necessary for the heatsink to transfer the led's heat to the aluminum body of the flashlight.
Something that a stock Magled can't do very good.
This is why Magleds go dimmer after a few minutes from getting hot.
This flashlight in it's modded state will now, stay at full power far longer without getting too hot.
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Now bend the wires something like this to get them to squish in.
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Push the led heatsink assembly into the barrel as far as you can.
It stopped just 1 millimeter short of where it was supposed to go in this case.
Nice tight fit as it should be.
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I used a pipe with a hollow plastic end on it to drive the heatsink the rest of the way in.
Notice how some of the heatsink grease squished out once the heatsink was all the way in.
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Moment of truth!
Magled reinstalled into another 4D light on the left with new batteries.
K2 Magmod on the right kicking it's butt! :)
The Magled hasn't even gotten warm enough to dim yet and it's still losing!
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As you can see, I have been doing this for a while.
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Re: Magmodding step by step with a megabyte of pics to show you how.

thanks for the great pics and info
 

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:goodjob: Well presented, nice clear photos, this should help a lot of newer people here.
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3rd_Shift. My compliments to you sir. Excellent presentation, excellent breakdown of each step. One of the best "how to's' I have ever seen.

:thanks: :twothumbs :thumbsup: :clap: :wow: :goodjob:
 

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3rd shift, thankyou for this great presentation. The step by step accompanied by the clear pics is a real help to the CPF community. They should make a sticky out of this! Cheers. :goodjob:
 

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That's the best DIY tutorial I've seen on CPF...Thanks for the great photos, time and effort, 3rd Shift.

TB
 

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3rd Shift;
Thank you! I used your instructions for my first MagMod, and it works just fine.
Is there some way to tell which is the + and - sides of the K2 emitter? The Lux III I used in my mod has a small hole in one of the leads, which makes polarity identification a snap.

I'd like to mod a 3 cell Mag with a K2 emitter. Will a 2 Watt 1 Ohm resistor be sufficient, or can I Direct Drive it ?

Keep it coming!
 

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Very nice 3rd shift. Although there are smaller lights, brighter lights, and a lot fancier lights, I think the direct drive (or slightly resistored) mag mod is probably one of the most practical and useful lights in real use. It's bright, it's got a great throwing beam with some sidespill, and it'll run a long time. A lot of people ask about how to do this in the LED section. This thread will be linked to quite often. I see you've been making quite a few of these for quite some time.

When I saw your pile of removed bulb holder parts, it reminded me of a hunter with a vast collection of trophy antlers :)

I hope you don't mind if I help sniper here. On the K2, you'll notice two corners have cutouts for screws. Of the other two corners, the pointy one is closest to the negative (cathode) leads while the corner that looks like it was cut off is nearest the positive (anode) leads. As far as if you can direct drive it off three cells depends on your forward voltage bin. I have done several of these direct drive down to ***K bins with no failures, but 3rd shift has a lot more direct drive experience so he can tell you what is safe. On the same lines, did you notice how 3rd shift attached a multimeter to the tailcap and checked current before closing the light up? He knows that in a given forward voltage bin, there is a lot of wiggle room so wanted to be certain that the amount of current the led is acually seeing is within the safe limits of the LED. Go for it!
 

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WOW...thanks so much for making that great guide. Wonderful job!!!
 

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Stephen, thanks for this excellent tutorial.
Makes even an "all thumbs" guy like me want to give it a try.....some day. :)
 

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Re: Magmodding step by step with a megabyte of pics to show you how.

A 3D maglite body will also work ok with a UWON bin K2 led, and you can skip the resistor altogether.
This is an even simpler and still bulletproof Magmod to do.
It just takes 4.2-4.4 volts to get the led's full 1.4 rated amperage through is all.
Otherwise, 3 nimh, or even alkaline batteries will still shove 1-1.2 amps through it with 100+ lumens of light output.
4.5 volts worth of alkaline batteries will still sag down well below 4.4 volts under load, thus making a 3 cell resistorless direct drive version a safe bet as well.
Just the 2 wires from the switch assembly to the led is all it would take in the 3 cell version. ;)

Oh, a 2 watt resistor should also work.
I have used those many times in the C cell versions of these lights.
Just use arctic alumina instead os plain epoxy when using a smaller and hotter running 2 watt rated resistor.

Glad you guys liked this.
Stay tuned for the Cree XRE version of this tutorial.
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Thank you for the great tutorial. I do believe you can get the polarity on a K2 by referring to the .pdf file available on it from Luxeon - one corner is cutoff so the positive can be identified. I've got a 3 D cell Mag light sitting on my desk right now that I've had many years - finally decided to do something with it and had already cut down the reflector before seeing this. K2 in hand. Just need a few more parts and thanks to this I'll even know what I'm doing :)
 

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Your D cell Maglites will need to have a letter "D" at the start of the barrel serial number.
These were made from about 2001 and later.
If it doesn't it will be too old to accept a proper fitting heatsink.
Nobody seems to make an older style d cell heatsink for te older Maglites yet.

Same true for the c cell versions.
2001 and newer are fairly easy to find heatsinks for.
There should be a "C" at the start of it's serial number.
If not, finding a proper fitting heatsink will be hard.
There were a few adaptors made, but not a bunch.
Look for a hotlips heatsink adaptor ring for the older model C cell Maglites.

Cheers :)
 

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Kudos for the tutorial! I don't want to seem lazy and unable to search, but these questions will help other noobs such as myself in the future I'm sure -

1) Where is a good source for heatsinks?
2) Where is a good source for LEDS?

Thanks for your effort! -Great tutorial
 

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this looks interesting.....how does this affect battery life doing this mod???

Also, do you have to start out with a magled or can it be a regular mag 4d??
 
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Very nice! I luv pictorial instructions. Do you add heat-shrink tubing to the contacts between the switch and the LED module?
 

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Casebrius said:
Kudos for the tutorial! I don't want to seem lazy and unable to search, but these questions will help other noobs such as myself in the future I'm sure -

1) Where is a good source for heatsinks?
2) Where is a good source for LEDS?

Thanks for your effort! -Great tutorial

1 - Not sure
2 - PhotonFanatic - CPF member right here and great to deal with - also he's got a web site by the same name - just add .com Usually has LED message sales thread going here is B/S/T
 

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Casebrius said:
Kudos for the tutorial! I don't want to seem lazy and unable to search, but these questions will help other noobs such as myself in the future I'm sure -

1) Where is a good source for heatsinks?
2) Where is a good source for LEDS?

Thanks for your effort! -Great tutorial

For D-cell maglite heatsinks, CPF member H22A (as mentioned by 3rd shift) and Mirage_Man should be able to help you out. The Shoppe still has some hotlips for both C & D cell maglites (Heatsinks at the Shoppe )
 

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TB383 said:
this looks interesting.....how does this affect battery life doing this mod???

Also, do you have to start out with a magled or can it be a regular mag 4d??

Battery life will be longer now than that of a regular 4D Maglite.
Not sure if it's any longer than a Magled's though. :thinking:

A regular 4D with the letter "D" at the start of it's serial number will do just fine. :)
 
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greenLED said:
Very nice! I luv pictorial instructions. Do you add heat-shrink tubing to the contacts between the switch and the LED module?

That can be done if desired, but it really won't help much.
I have never had one come back yet that didn't have it. ;)

However, adding a blob of epoxy under each led contact after the light is finished is a good idea to keep the led contacts insulated from the heatsink.
Add some glow sand, or powder with the epoxy and you will have a really cool looking light even after you turn it off. :wow:
 
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