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    Default Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    I like the performance of my Fenix P1, nice beam, good regulation, 1,5 h runtime. But i dont like the twist on/twist off.
    Yesterday i received a Fenix P1 - CE, and then i went to my small lathe.
    The P1 head fits perfect in the e1e bezel.













    Sorry for my english...

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    Got any beamshots?

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    what a great mod!!! planex, the beamshots should be the same as in a regular P1D-CE since he's utilizing the original reflector.

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    If your interested in doing any more of these mod's give us a price and I'll bet you'll
    have some taker's. I know I would like 1 or 2 done. Pm me if your interested.
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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Beam, runtime etc. original Fenix P1.
    Its the same head without any modifications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energie
    and then i went to my small lathe
    oooooh i was hoping it was a drop in fit ... ahhh well !!! Well done Energie
    Last edited by HEY HEY ITS HENDO; 12-16-2006 at 04:42 PM.
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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Penquin: Its a P1 head. I think, the P1 - CE head would not fit.

    Manarv1: I am doing this just for fun, infected by CPF.

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    So it's just a drop in, no machining needed, is that correct?
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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Manav1: Machining is needed, (e1e bezel, P1 head).
    See pic 1: right: original P1 head, middle: machined P1 head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energie
    Penquin: Its a P1 head. I think, the P1 - CE head would not fit
    would you try the P1-CE head ???
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    I take it you had to "lathe" the reflector out of the E1e head? Wow, you'd make a small fortune doing just that! Imagine the possibilities!
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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Hey hey its Hendo: The rear end of the P1-CE head ist too large in diameter.
    It don´t fit into the e1e body.

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    Can we get someone to do the machine work for a reasonable fee if we provide the
    part's? I know I'd be in for a couple and I'm sure there's folk's on Cpf who could do
    the machine work. Maybe Milky Lab's?
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    Marnav1: Milky is the right adress! He has made a M-L1 for me, my favorite flashlight.
    Kdog3: I am thinking of the possibilities too...

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Man we need someone to come up with a light engine assembly to go in there! I would want a stippled reflector in mine however. Alright gentlemen, lets' get our thinking caps on! Well, you guys should, I'm too dumb for this kinda thing! I have a black HA E1e body with a matching bezel coming on a black HAIII E2e (which I will be putting on the E1e body). I would *LOVE* to find a decent LED solution for it.
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    I'm going to have to give that a try!

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    Your a God!!!

    Excellent Idea!

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Thanks 700club.
    But I think, if 4sevens give it a try, it´s showtime!

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    A handdrill or preferably a drill press jsut put it in and use strips of sandpaper up to like 800 grit for good effect.

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Hello Energie and welcome to CPF

    Great work you've done

    Do you think it's possible: Unsrew the LE of the P1 D-CE and epoxying into the E1e head, if the OD at the threads of the LE is too wide, sanding down the LE a bit?

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Thanks Long John.
    I have not opened the P1-CE head, but the reflector is 0,180 inch longer than the reflector of the P1 head. You have to cut down the reflector of the P1-CE.

    The rear end of the P1-CE head (diameter 0,737 inch, electronic only, without bezel) has to fit in the e1e body (diameter inside 0,680 inch).
    I don´t know, how much space the electronic inside the P1-CE head needs.
    Maybe it´s possible to reduce the rear end in diameter.

    BTW, I like the simple P1 mode (on/off), no five stages (P1-CE).
    The P1-CE ist brighter than the P1, but the difference in practice ist not
    so noticable. The P1 head in a e1e is a very good compromise.
    And the beam is nice, flood and throw.

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Thank you very much Energie for the reply

    My thought was, using the advantage of the clickie (toogling through the modes) and I really like the form factor of the E1e. So therefore it should be possible, carefully by hand (shure it takes a while).

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Long John: I like the form factor of the e1e too.
    And I am the opinion, that a (mod) Surefire has to work like a Surefire: solid, safe and with a good performance. Therefore I left the rest of the P1 bezel around the electronic/reflector of the P1 head.
    By using the P1-CE head you have to remove the whole metal around the electronic/reflector . And you have to cut down the reflector, because of the needed space.
    You will get an unprotected P1 - CE head with a suboptimal reflector in the e1e head.
    Maybe it works, but the disadvantages...

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    I wonder if the Luxogen LR5 or LR12 ineards would work in the E1E without modification? Anyone willing to try...

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    .
    Some pics added: "how to make it"

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=145160




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    Quote Originally Posted by Energie
    Long John: I like the form factor of the e1e too.
    And I am the opinion, that a (mod) Surefire has to work like a Surefire: solid, safe and with a good performance. Therefore I left the rest of the P1 bezel around the electronic/reflector of the P1 head.
    By using the P1-CE head you have to remove the whole metal around the electronic/reflector . And you have to cut down the reflector, because of the needed space.
    You will get an unprotected P1 - CE head with a suboptimal reflector in the e1e head.
    Maybe it works, but the disadvantages...
    Hmmm, thanks for the informations. Perhaps there exists another E-series head which is a little larger (length and wide)?

    Best regards

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Thanks for the update. I am looking forward to trying this.

    Would it be possible to use the reflector and emitter minus the P1 head?


    Quote Originally Posted by Energie
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    Some pics added: "how to make it"

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=145160




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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    Long John: You´r right.

    My e1e bezel: diameter 25,33 mm, length 27,19 mm
    My e2e bezel: diameter 25,32 mm, length 28,79 mm

    Different, but not enough.

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    700club: minus: metal body
    plus: center pin

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    Default Re: Surefire e1e with Fenix P1 head (pics)

    A KL4 head could be the way to go

    Best regards

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