Wolf Eyes Decision - M90X or M100X

I am trying to decide if I want a Wolf Eyes M90X or the M100X. I have read the specs on both and they pretty much look the same except for the bezel diameters. Both seem to have the same specs from what I see:

Output: 195 Lumens or 300 ??? Found conflicting information
Runtime: 50 minutes
Bulb: 12V Xenon
Battery: 4XCR123
Tactical button tailcap




M100X-A Non-Rechargeable:



M90X -A Non-Rechargeable:





CPF members - which one do you have/prefer?

FYI..you can also purchase the M90 Bezel ($25) or the M100 Bezel ($55) from PTS. Be aware that the bulbs are different and don't forget to use your CPF discount at PTF. I just ordered a M90X,M90-13V LRB-168 Conversion Kit, and LF 700,EO-13 High Output Lamp - 700 Lumen. I think Lumens Factory sells a 550 lumen D36 bulb to fit the M90X if you need more than the stock 300 lumens.

I am still somewhat of a newb but that sounds like what I would like to put together. If ya don't mind me asking what was the total through PTS? You can PM if ya want - thanks in advance !

Dorky1 said:

I think Lumens Factory sells a 550 lumen D36 bulb to fit the M90X if you need more than the stock 300 lumens.

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They make a 550-lumen 12V lamp, which runs on nonrechargeable (primary) 123A cells only. They also make a 450-lumen D36-size 9V lamp for use with two 168A cells; for safety reasons, it's runtime limited to 5 minutes at a time. Next month or so they'll be introducing a 13V, 40-lumen, 1.4A lamp for use with three 150A or 168A cells; it will be able to operate without runtime restrictions.

Go with the M90-series; compared with the M100, it's easier to carry and store and offers about a dozen lamp options, all but two usable with rechargeables:

• 130 lumens 9V Wolf Eyes D36-9V (pre-2006 model)
• 200 lumens 9V Wolf Eyes D36-9V
• 250 lumens 9V RICO Alpha 9
• 300 lumens 13V Wolf Eyes D36-13V
• 320 lumens 9V Lumens Factory SR-9L
• 320 lumens 12V Lumens Factory (added Jan. 16) (123A cells only)
• 350 lumens (est.) 12V Wolf Eyes D36-12V (3x150A)
• 380 lumens 9V Lumens Factory HO-9L
• 400 lumens 13V Lumens Factory HO-13L (coming soon)
• 450 lumens 9V Lumens Factory EO-9L
• 550 lumens 12V Lumens Factory (123A cells only)
• 700 lumens 13V Lumens Factory EO-13L

By contrast, the M100/M100X can use only one lamp (Wolf Eyes 12V; 200 lumens on two rechargeables, 300 lumens on 4 primaries). This lamp may be safe to use with three 150A cells for 300 lumens.

What will you be using the light for? The M90 bezel gives you a smooth spot-flood type beam. The M100 bezel gives you a pencil like hotspot which will out-throw most lights with very useful spill.

The M100X is much bulkier to carry around because of that turbo bezel, but if you want throw, the M100X is hard to beat. From what my stock M100X puts out, the 300lumen claim is about right...

M90X would be my choice for starters - I just got an EO-9L lamp for it from Lumens Factory - rated 450 Lumens - I run it off two 18650 batteries I tore out of a laptop (Sony batteries and they still seem quite strong, charge up fully) and so I'd get a M90X (with your discount about $50) - hard deal to beat for that much Lumens and quality and with the much higher Lumen bulbs available you might just be able to throw as far as that M100.

Paul_in_Maryland said:

By contrast, the M100/M100X can use only one lamp (Wolf Eyes 12V; 200 lumens on two rechargeables, 300 lumens on 4 primaries). This lamp may be safe to use with three 150A cells for 300 lumens.

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There may be only one factory option for the M100, but didn't somebody do a mod to install a bi-pin bulb in the M100 setup?

TommyRox said:

I am trying to decide if I want a Wolf Eyes M90X or the M100X. I have read the specs on both and they pretty much look the same except for the bezel diameters. Both seem to have the same specs from what I see:

CPF members - which one do you have/prefer?

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The M90X is more general purpose, so it would be a good choice to get first. I have both the M90X and M100X, they're both great lights. I like the M100X because it has a very nice beam (tight hotspot with lots of throw and a very generous spillbeam) that is unlike any of my other lights. However, with the cost of CR123 cells, it is important to consider a rechargeable setup, which is easier to get with the M90.

Paul, Of the Lumens Factory 9V D36 lamps (SR-9L, HO-9L, & EO-9L) do you know if any have a floody beam like the 12V and 13V lamps that come with the M90? I have found that 2 - 168A cells fire the 12V fairly well but was looking for something more matched to output.
Thanks,
Lloyd

Super deal - I am defintely going with the M90X then. I have a cabin in Arkansas and when it gets dark - it gets DARK as we are way out there. I need a light to go varmin chasing and to use when I am avoiding the snakes on our evening travels through the woods.

Thanks guys !!!

vortechs said:

There may be only one factory option for the M100, but didn't somebody do a mod to install a bi-pin bulb in the M100 setup?

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Yes, David of Italy.

westfork said:

Paul, Of the Lumens Factory 9V D36 lamps (SR-9L, HO-9L, & EO-9L) do you know if any have a floody beam like the 12V and 13V lamps that come with the M90? I have found that 2 - 168A cells fire the 12V fairly well but was looking for something more matched to output.
Thanks,
Lloyd

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I'm totally with you, Lloyd. I find flood more useful. I'm still waiting on my Lumens Factory lamps. From what I've read, the company's design philosophy is to direct most of the lumens into throw.

For the M90, the brightest, widest flood I've found is the Wolf Eyes 13V. The second best would be the RICO Alpha 9 (9V). The Wolf Eyes 12V beam is more of a "throw plus spill".

If you like your flood wide, you might pick up the larger Surefire BeamShaper (diffuser), add some wrapping tape to a Wolf Eyes tactical head, and diffuse a 380-lumen EO-9 D26.

I concur as I ownded an M90X that I upgraded to 13v status, and also purchased an M100X turbo head. The M90X is a ram of light... an amazing beam to behold. It was a great trail light, especially in the 13v guise. That stated, I loved the beam on the M100X. Yes, it threw and threw and threw but the reflector is 1/2 OP so it also had a HUGE, bright spill beam.

Paul_in_Maryland said:

I'm totally with you, Lloyd. I find flood more useful. I'm still waiting on my Lumens Factory lamps. From what I've read, the company's design philosophy is to direct most of the lumens into throw.

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Yes, but the beam is pretty wide (compared to a Mag or TL-3 beam), so it's a nice compromise. I really like my HO-4 and HO-9, and am anxiously awaiting the HO-13.

Thanks for the information Paul. I just ordered some of the RICO Alpha-9 250 lumen lamp modules for a 2 - 18650 rechargeable setup for a 90X. Sounds like a good rig. I have the 168 extender for a 13V setup but the shorter length of the standard tube is handy for some applications.
Lloyd

So no Lumens Factory lamps in the M100? I'd like the turbo head, but if you can't change out the lamp assemblies I think I might have to get the M90. How is the throw on the D36 Lumens Factory bulbs?

cmaylodm said:

So no Lumens Factory lamps in the M100? I'd like the turbo head, but if you can't change out the lamp assemblies I think I might have to get the M90. How is the throw on the D36 Lumens Factory bulbs?

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It throws similar to stock WE lamps but significantly brighter due to the lower voltage needed to light them. I run my D36 HO-9L with 2 x 18650 in the M90x and it is amazingly whiter and brighter than stock 12v lamp...

cmaylodm said:

So no Lumens Factory lamps in the M100? I'd like the turbo head, but if you can't change out the lamp assemblies I think I might have to get the M90. How is the throw on the D36 Lumens Factory bulbs?

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It throws similar to stock WE lamps but significantly brighter due to the lower voltage needed to light them. I run my D36 HO-9L with 2 x 18650 in the M90x and it is amazingly whiter and brighter than stock 12v lamp...

Paul_in_Maryland said:

They also make a 450-lumen D36-size 9V lamp for use with two 168A cells; for safety reasons, it's runtime limited to 5 minutes at a time.

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10 minutes. The only one limited to 5 is the EO-13L.
And there's another 12V from Lumens Factory, the 320 lumen SR-12.

Owen said:

10 minutes. The only one limited to 5 is the EO-13L.
And there's another 12V from Lumens Factory, the 320 lumen SR-12.

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Thanks for the corrections, Owen. I've added the SR-12 to my list in Post 4.