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    Hello all, I've done searches here and have emailed a few folk but I don't see anything recent.This will hit the largest masses. I'm looking for a web host and a domain name.
    What experience do you have with your providers? I'll be staying away from free hosts as I think they can be blodgey (if that's a word). You get what you pay for and I don't want to payy too much. Is it best to get one provider for both? Separate providers for domain name and web host?
    There was great info that I gleaned from Chromatophile's topic about his page.
    Thanks for any and all info.
    Tom

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    A ps to this: I want to register a domain name and have the renewals sent to me so that if the company I registered thru goes belly up I still can remain active.

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    Tripod hosts torchreviews.net. Their free service sucks these days but sign up for their Pro account and you get a free domain name, 50Mb storage, 10Mb monthly bandwidth, 5 sub-domains, 5 pop e-mail addresses, 5 redirecting e-mail addresses and some other stuff too including CGI script support and full file sharing/hotlinkable images. Costs me $8 per month plus a one-off $15 setup fee.
    They also offer Webmaster and Expert (?) grade accounts with more storage, bandwidth, e-mails and subdomains, plus more other stuff too. They cost more but it`s not extortionate - and remember that includes a fully fledged domain, not just one that bounces you back into a (yourname).tripod.com address.

    I can`t see the Lycos Networks failing any time soon so you shouldn`t have to worry about longevity, and as you grow more experienced and demand more of your web space, you`ll have plenty of time to discover and implement longer term solutions that are better tailored to your needs.

    But for newbies and even the experienced but not world-famous web sites, I couldn`t reccomend them enough.

    And no, I don`t work for them and am not being paid by them to write this! I`m just a happy customer.

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    I'm currently using Lunarpages ( http://www.lunarpages.com/hosting.html ). They charge $7.95 a month, have no setup fees, give you 300mb of storage, allow 20GB of data transfer per month and unlimited number of e-mail addresses. So far (about a year now) I haven't had any problems with them and would recommend them.

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    Check out www.servercentral.net - Look at their "Starter Site" - $7 /month gets you the features below. I have 4 or 5 (I forget) domain accounts with them and am very pleased.

    Server Space - 30MB
    Recommended Bandwidth Usage - 2GB
    Users (POP/IMAP/FTP/WEB) - 10
    Anonymous FTP
    24/7 FTP Access
    Unlimited E-Mail Aliases
    Wildcard E-Mail Alias
    ASP, PHP4, MySQL, CGI
    Real-Time Site Control Panel
    Frontpage 2000 Extensions
    Personal User Websites
    Unlimited Technical Support
    SMTP (Email) Gateway
    Bandwidth Monitor
    Traffic Stats
    Domain Names (No Fees) - 1 FREE
    Setup Fee - NONE

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    Thanks for the info y'all. I'm still learning what email aliases, subdomains and the like are. This info will help me while weeding thru the newbie stuff.
    Amazing how inexpensive web hosts are [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    Tom

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    I highly suggest you register through Network Solutions - They are a little more expensive than most of the others, but they are "the granddaddy" of the registrars, are reliable and more stable than anyone else. http://www.netsol.com

    If you do register through someone else, especially through a hosting company be very careful; A lot of them will register the domain name under their own name and will hold it hostage if you ever want to transfer to another host.

    I used AIT http://www.aitcom.net/ as a host for a long time and have been very happy with them in terms of reliability and the package they offer. Especially if you want to do E-commerce (using your own merchant credit card account.) They have a built in shopping cart that is easy to use.

    But I have recently started moving things to http://www.featureprice.com/ They offer a lot of good stuff, including "UNLIMITED" Disk space and "UNLIMITED" bandwidth with the package I have with them and are a heck of a lot cheaper than AIT, but still as reliable (so far) and better customer service.

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    Yes, web hosting is very cheap. The software is what cost the big bucks. I pay $96 a year for 25 meg and unlimited bandwidth. I have never used more than 10 meg. I got it nearly 4 years ago and i'm supposed to have it for life, I hope the company last that long. (That was a scary statement) I will re-phrase: I hope they last a very long time and I last longer.

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    You can do a 'whois' on your favorite site (CPF right??? [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ) and see who uses what.

    If you don't have access to that command locally on your computer, then you can get the results from any one of the gazillion web sites that offer the service. A quick search came up with this one:
    www.whois.net

    Just type in the final 2 parts to a domain name you want to find out about, such as "candlepowerforums.com" because that's the only part that's significant as domain.

    Let me pre-apologize if I've just insulted you and you knew all this already.

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    Binky no insult perceived. Did you mean to hurl one [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]
    It's much better to hear something several times than not at all. My opinion. I ran into the who is while researching this and I used it for a project. I didn't think to use it to find out the host. Great idea. Like if I see a site layout I like I click view page source to see how they laid it up.
    I'm going to go a separate domain name registrar that ensures I receive the renewal notices and won't hold hostage my name.
    Still haven't settled on one yet.Network Solutions looks very fine for my dns.
    Tom
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    Personally, I think it's a little nutty to pay NetSol $25/year for a 3 year reg. GoDaddy is a pretty popular registrar, and at $8.95/year, it's a great deal. I've bought a couple of domains through them and am very happy. It is super easy to change DNS info through their web interface.

    As for hosting, it is truly a buyers market! Check out this site to run a quick check of some of deals around.

    I'm currentlu with www.glowhost.com. For $4.50/month I get 50 Megs storage and 2 GBs transfer. As well, they have an amazing control panel loaded with traffic analysis progs, webmail, shopping carts, etc... Couldn't be happier!

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    All I can say is DON'T go with BuyDomains.com. I went with them because they were only $16 for renewals, and got hosed on their "free features". Now they won't let me switch for two months even though their E-Mail forwarding service is misleading as advertised.

    My previous domain registrar and forwarding provider was NamesDirect.com. Now that I am stuck with BuyDomains for 60 days, I miss NamesDirect dearly. Given my current experience, $30 a year was so worth it!

    FWIW, another company that looks pretty decent and also seems to be a NamesDirect reseller is MyDomain.com, but I don't have any real experience with them.

    I don't have any need for web hosting, so I can't really help with that...

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    SORRY ABOUT THE FOLLOWING RANT.

    Man, I hope no one took my advice on using featureprice.com for a host.

    Those guys TOTALLY SUCK. Their package prices (for multiple site hosting) were real good, and their servers are pretty decent, good connections to the backbone and stuff. And for the first couple of months tech support was pretty decent (although I only had to contact them twice: once before signing up and once a week or two later.).

    Well, I wanted to transfer another one of my domains there, get it off my more expensive host.. I am allowed up to six domains for the single package price on my 1 year pre-paid contract. Took me a week to get an answer from them because after my first email the next 14 emails were rejected by their help desk mail server as "permission denied" - so no one even got the chance to read them. I spent another 6 hours online waiting online for their online "chat" help interface, which never made contact either.

    Telephone support? HA! they won't talk to you over the phone unless you email them first and get a ticket number and code word assigned. And their tech support email server is set up to reject any follow up emails from any specific email account.

    I finally got through by setting up a new email account: Their reply was that because they have gone to a new control panel system this month, my old setup will not allow adding new domains (I have 2 there, and by contract am allowed 4 more.) So, I need to sign up for a new account to set up with the new control panel.

    Follow the provided link to set up on the new system. Hmm, they want credit card information, bank account information and all kinds of personal information that wasn't required when I first signed up over there.

    I think; "Are they going to charge me for this???" I guess I wouldn't mind too much a small setup charge, even though it doesn't seem right to me... But I want to know what the charge will be, since it isn't disclosed on the sign-up page. So, I email them from the contact link at the bottom of the signup page. It bounces from the server: "no such account". OK, I send an email to the main billing email. It bounces as "refused".... Send it again from the other email account I had to set up. Also "refused"

    Set up ANOTHER dam# new email account. That one gets through. They tell me I have have to set up a completely new account and pay for it. I reply, asking if I get pro- rated for the remaining 9 months on my original contract.

    Bounces as "refused". Try again with another email account: "refused". Try with the third email: "refused".

    I guess I'll stick with hosting at AIT where I have been for the last 4-5 years. They are significantly more expensive, and have raised rates with no notice, but at least you can occasionally get through to them. They have some interesting new packages too, including one with UNLIMITED traffic. for $19.00 a month, and a "free" shopping cart which works pretty well if you sell stuff online and have your own merchant account.

    ANYWAY, whatever you do, stay away from featureprice.com, and if anyone took my earlier advice, I humbly beg your forgiveness.

    Another gripe, which seems to apply to USA based web hosting companies in general: It would be nice if they at least got their tech support people to take an ESL course first. I don't speak Hindu, Pakastani nor arabic.... and they do not seem to be able to understand either English or "murican".

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    I use Amhosting http://www.amhosting.com/ and are registered with Dotster
    http://web.dotster.com/. Amhosting has been wonderfull and has incredible
    customer service. The few problems I had ( not with them, just getting
    setup and some questions) emailed them about get answered usually within
    hours, the longest I ever had to wait for a reply was the next day. The
    plan I currently have is the "regular" plan found here
    http://www.amhosting.com/modules.php...amp;file=index I
    started out with the "basic" plan but needed more server space. I have had
    very little down time on my web site and the little it was down I noticed
    many other sites were down also so I figured it was an internet thing and
    not their fault.

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    Hey Silv,

    I feel your pain [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] I actually just ran a search to find this thread as I recalled your endorsement of FP and wanted to issue a warning too.

    I've hosted with FeaturePrice since Sept 2001. Everything was AOK until a few days ago when POP mail stopped arriving. Hmmm. And the site is down! Hmm Hmm.

    Jumped through the same "support" hoops as you without any resolution. I also got the "We've migrated to a new control panel so please fill out this form" thing. Damn! I did it and now wonder, like you, whether I just authorized another year of service. Way, way shady!

    My favourite was the call to their tech line:
    "Thank you for choosing FeaturePrice.com. Have a pleasant day. Good Bye!"

    Thought, "That can't be good at all!" and did a quick search at WebHosting Talk forums. Came up with this ridiculously long list of complaints. Uh oh! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

    Started the ball rolling with GlowHost I've had another site hosted with them for a few months and its been super smooth. Only signed on for 6 mos. though as I now know how fast a ship can sink.

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    Thanks Mekki-
    Thanks for the link to Webhosting talk too; Somehow I missed that in my various web wanderings.

    Looks like FeaturePrice is really going to he77 in a handbasket.

    My domain emails there have occasionally been spotty for a week or so, but never down more than 20 minutes or so that I've noticed.

    Fortunately everything I have there is more or less a mirror to older sites hosted over on AIT, so even if the whole thing goes down permanently I won't be totally messed over.

    Better call your Credit card company and tell them to cancel any payments to FP. I think they also DBA as Hosting-Network Inc. They could be cleaning everyone out before they high-tail out of here. A month or so ago, I ran across a rumor that they were all "Ay-rabs".... Maybe they are bugging out. I kind of doubt it myself though- All the names I've seen from there seem more Indian (Hindu type, not Apaches or Mohawks [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

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    Hello TOB9595,

    I also am looking for a Web host.

    I am also wondering what software you are using for your web page? I have heard some people use Front Page, or Microsoft Publisher, or Word. What are you planing on using?

    Tom

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    I use html help from Insights Express (it's the wdie12.zip link) to learn html and html kit to build the pages. Both are free.


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    I just ran across these guys:
    http://www.hostnexus.com/

    Their prices are reasonable, but the thing that REALLY impresses me is that they have a forum set up where you can ask questions and actually get answers! Both customers and company techs and managers are online quite often and will help you out no matter how "stupid" or advanced your question. Seems like a nice community... Kind of like CPF used to be [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    SilverFox- I use FrontPage 2000 most often. Occasionally it is a pain in the butt because it thinks it knows better what I want than I do, but it is quite powerful. To be of most use though, your host has to support FrontPage extensions. Most do, some don't at all, and some charge extra for it.

    I know a few people that use Word and like it OK, but I don't.

    Get a book on HTML and you can design a website using Notepad or any text editor. Even if you use a powerful web tool like FP, Dreamweaver or Adobe's it is really helpful to actually be able to do html coding on your own.

    FrontPage Express is a "free" but limited version of FP from Microsoft. It works sort of OK. I don't know if Netscape still has it, but they used include a free website development tool that was actually pretty decent.

    An old program that I used when I was first starting out was "HotDog". I liked it quite a bit.

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    Check out
    http://e-rice.net/

    10 per year for a basic account - [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
    150M Disk Space

    3G/mo Data Transfer

    1 MySQL Database

    10 Email/User Accounts
    and they have a user forum, but the price does seem too good.[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img] I plan to register with them in the near future.

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    Hmm, Just checked e-rice out. Certainly can't complain about the price! (Except that it is TOO GOOD, I think).

    This is hypocritical of me because I only accept credit card payments through PayPal, but I have to kind of wonder about a web hosting company that doesn't have their own merchant account.... But I do like that they have a support forum.

    And they are located in Texas, and that is also good for a number of reasons. (Unless Santanna rises again).

    They don't support CGI or PERL though, so that really limits what your site there can do. If words and pictures are enough, then they should do.

    At ten dollars a year, you don't risk much by trying them out.

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    [ QUOTE ]
    They don't support CGI or PERL though, so that really limits what your site there can do. If words and pictures are enough, then they should do.

    [/ QUOTE ]You are right - they are just for words and pictures - they keep it pretty limited/simple.

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    Hello Silviron,

    First off, thanks for allowing us to meet on your site while Sasha was slaving over the upgrade.

    I have heard some comments that Front Page 2000 is more robust than the 2002 edition. Something about 2002 not being able to read web pages built with 2000. Any comments?

    Tom

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    You are welcome (for the substitute forum).

    I haven't looked at FP2002 at all, so I have no insight in that respect.... Sorry.

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    I have heard some comments that Front Page 2000 is more robust than the 2002 edition. Something about 2002 not being able to read web pages built with 2000. Any comments?

    Tom

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Many web geeks speak very unflatteringly about FrontPage. The general gripe seems to be FP's habit of adding all kinds of weird, proprietary code to a page. AFAIK, this creates a web page that is both slow to load and potentially incompatible with non-MS browsers. The last point is one to pay attention to as I have a feeling that Internet Explorer is starting to lose its dominance as more people discover alternatives like Opera and Mozilla.

    I'm partial to Dreamweaver now, but the learning curve is pretty steep (I still have a ton to learn). My first site was done with Netscape Composer; it was a bit of a hassle as it is a super-basic program (think Notepad to Dreamweaver's Word), but it worked OK [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif[/img]

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    I recently registered with www.hasweb.com. Their prices are really good for what they offer because of limited support. Their "parent" company is www.hostdime.com which costs more but provides more support. I've used AIM to talk to their techs and they still help me out. I've only been with them for about a month, and other than initial setup issues, I've been problem free.

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    Well I finall waded through all of the GREAT info above. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] I finally decided on godaddy
    The rate is $140 for two web site hosts for 13 months. I could have gone monthly for $6 per month. This has 10 meg space with 500 meg transfer. $15 a year for another mailbox. Each site is allocatted one.
    This will be sufficient for each site. It's truly amazing how little space I used. Diesel Dave, I think said it above. I just didn't need the space.
    Godaddy was a joy to talk with (live) I talked with them on several occasions.
    I had to renew the domain names with the previous company (network solutions) at $30 each for one year. They make it impossible to transfer domains within a week of their expiration. Oh well I know better for next year.
    Godaddy's renewal rate was ~$7 per year.
    I feel comfortable with my dealings with Godaddy. You can get more space, transfer rate, emails etc. I reckoned this was good.
    I built pages in HTML using Notepad. Yes, Notepad. As I learn I'll use some of the big apps. I have just about them all [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
    Thanks for all the really informative info and to all those who've emailed me.
    THANK YOU
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    [ QUOTE ]
    Tree said:
    I use html help from Insights Express (it's the wdie12.zip link) to learn html and html kit to build the pages. Both are free.


    [/ QUOTE ]


    tHIS INFO FROM TREE WAS INVALUABLE IN LEARNING WEB PAGES.
    When will I ever learn to turn the caps off?
    Tom

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    I tried Dreamweaver 4 years ago and thought it was ok. Didn't really like it though. Went to my first day of technology class this year and botta bang you have to build a website (Oh no! Websites and I don't get along!) the software the school has? Well you could use Notepad or Dreamweaver MX.


    After about a 10 minute lesson on Dreamweaver I was good to go. My school websites (Build 99.9% with the WYSIWYG side of Dreamweaver) look great! It's an excellent little application.

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    Hi Saaby, Does the school use DWMX or the full Dreamweaver? I'm gonna try it out. I just loaded DWMX and will give it a run. Can't find a reference to wysiwyg with MX yet. Just started.
    Tom

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