Klarus        
Results 1 to 26 of 26

Thread: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

  1. #1
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Rolleye11 Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    On the left is my $30 FT-01PJ with a $11 SSC-P4-Ubin emitter upgrade.

    On the right is a $100 FT-01XSW-XRE with the stock Cree.

    Pictures are corresponding, same shot normal and underexposed. The Cree Huntlight is on it's maximum brightness setting.

    If anyone comments that the Cree flashlight should have a textured reflector, you're in agreement with me.

    I've done lots of Seoul upgrades today, but I'm only posting ones that have interesting comparisons.

    Enjoy.





    Last edited by EngrPaul; 01-20-2007 at 08:23 PM.

  2. #2
    Flashaholic*
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Anaheim, CA.
    Posts
    2,331

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Is the SSC-P4-Ubin emitters actually brighter than the Crees.
    That is a great modification!!!!!!

  3. #3
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    The emitter was swapped with a .030 copper disc. No other mods to the flashlight was necessary, not even to the reflector.

  4. #4
    Flashaholic* Casual Flashlight User's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,263

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    So, where do I send my humble FT01 and how long will the mod take?

    Seriously though...wow!


    CFU
    Arc: AAA-P HDS: U60-SSC (P4 USVOI), 18650 tube, 2x123 tube NovaTac: EDC 120P

  5. #5
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Yes, the Seoul throws and the Cree spills. Thanks for the cheers.

    I'll have to take some current measurements later.

  6. #6
    Flashaholic* chevrofreak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Billings, Montana, USA
    Posts
    2,544

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by EngrPaul
    If anyone comments that the Cree flashlight should have a textured reflector, you're in agreement with me.
    I've been hoping they would release a replacement textured reflector for the light.

  7. #7
    Flashaholic* Nake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cleve. OH
    Posts
    1,768

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by EngrPaul
    The emitter was swapped with a .030 copper disc. No other mods to the flashlight was necessary, not even to the reflector.
    Can you explain that? I'd like to do this mod to my Huntlight.

  8. #8
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree


  9. #9
    Flashaholic* Nake's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Cleve. OH
    Posts
    1,768

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by EngrPaul
    Okay, got that, thanks. Am I correct in assuming the emitter can go either way since I don't see any markings for positive or negative on the Luxeon emitter?

  10. #10
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    You can download the spec sheets for Luxeon and Seoul at their respective web sites, it shows the polarization clearly.

  11. #11

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    EngrPaul,

    Where are you getting the Seoul P4 s from ?

    I like the mod lots. I plan to do one.

    jj

  12. #12
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    The sandwich shoppe sells everything needed.

  13. #13
    Flashaholic tenfour's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Seattle WA
    Posts
    148

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    This is really cool, but I cannot mod.
    Would someone be willing to accept some $$ to do this mod for me?

  14. #14
    Flashaholic
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Silicon Valley CA
    Posts
    241

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Bright!... now how about the runtimes and the flatness of the light output? The P4 beam looks much more blue. How do they compare in person (sometimes cameras do funny things to tint).

  15. #15
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    The beam of the Seoul mod is beautiful.

    Here are the current readings from the batteries used to take the pictures.

    2 X RCR-123A Powerizer 650 mAh for both.

    FT-01PJ with Seoul: .50A
    FT-01-XSE-XRE on Hi: .63A
    Last edited by EngrPaul; 01-21-2007 at 12:10 PM.

  16. #16
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    chanamasala brought to my attention there is a potential for shorting between the emitter leads and the bottom of the reflector.

    To prevent this, I have applied epoxy to the top of the leads where this potential exists, after bending down the leads away from the reflector. The leads were bent down a little to move toward the board for soldering, anyway.



    P.S. this o-ring inside between the pill and the reflector is a very good design element. The compression of the rubber maintains an contact actuation force between the reflector and the pill, preventing the sort of flickering problem present in Fenix flashlights.

  17. #17
    Flashaholic* Casual Flashlight User's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    England
    Posts
    1,263

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by tenfour
    This is really cool, but I cannot mod.
    Would someone be willing to accept some $$ to do this mod for me?
    Same here, somebody needs to mod a few of these for us dumb folks (whilst making themselves a few quid). Maybe milkyspit should be drafted in for the cause!

    Still can't get over that Seoul with the OP reflector...the beam pattern absolutely murders the cree...just looks so much better!


    CFU
    Arc: AAA-P HDS: U60-SSC (P4 USVOI), 18650 tube, 2x123 tube NovaTac: EDC 120P

  18. #18
    Flashaholic* roguesw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Tokyo, Japan
    Posts
    840

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    EngPaul
    did you have to isolate the +ve polarity slug of the Seoul ?
    this looks like a winning combo, time to start looking at new lights again
    cheers mate
    Des
    KL-4+Vital Gear FB02
    Pr-t (TWOK) + DB700 + E2E
    Pr (WXOT) + BB700 + E20
    M3T + rcr 123's
    Will build for free!!

  19. #19
    Banned x2x3x2's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Posts
    1,258

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Wow, your mod with the P4 gives even better beam than the stock XR-E
    No "imaginery" rings even with the stock reflector and beam looks even whiter too.

    Huntlight should probably change it's while line with P4's.

  20. #20
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Wink2 Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by roguesw
    EngPaul
    did you have to isolate the +ve polarity slug of the Seoul ?
    See post #11 here:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=149000

  21. #21
    Flashaholic* chevrofreak's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    Billings, Montana, USA
    Posts
    2,544

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by EngrPaul
    P.S. this o-ring inside between the pill and the reflector is a very good design element. The compression of the rubber maintains an contact actuation force between the reflector and the pill, preventing the sort of flickering problem present in Fenix flashlights.
    What? I've never had a Fenix flicker, and I can't remember reading about anyone having a Fenix that flickered.

  22. #22
    Flashaholic scubasteve1942's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    Florida
    Posts
    228

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by chevrofreak
    What? I've never had a Fenix flicker, and I can't remember reading about anyone having a Fenix that flickered.
    Unfortunately I have a flickering fenix.

  23. #23
    Flashaholic* EngrPaul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    PA
    Posts
    3,679

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    chevro,

    Mostly with the P1, but the potential exists on any lights that use the pill threads as a electrical contact without way to maintain a force between threads.

    Fenix has a few examples of this method, but they seem to be getting away from this design lately.

    That was discussed pretty thoroughly here, where the topic is still open for discussion:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=142788
    Last edited by EngrPaul; 01-21-2007 at 08:03 PM.

  24. #24
    Flashaholic* roguesw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Tokyo, Japan
    Posts
    840

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    thanks paul!!! cheers mate
    Des
    KL-4+Vital Gear FB02
    Pr-t (TWOK) + DB700 + E2E
    Pr (WXOT) + BB700 + E20
    M3T + rcr 123's
    Will build for free!!

  25. #25
    Flashaholic
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Las Vegas, NV
    Posts
    194

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Quote Originally Posted by scubasteve1942
    Unfortunately I have a flickering fenix.
    Yeah, me too!

  26. #26
    Flashaholic* nanotech17's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    N 03°13.884° / E 101°29.329°
    Posts
    2,150

    Default Re: Huntlight FT-01PJ Upgraded to Seoul - vs - FT01-XSE_XRE Cree

    Great work again Paul
    Really motivate me into modding my torches.
    Just have to wait until everything gather than i will proceed.



Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •