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    Default MagLED 2AA destroyed

    OK, here is the story - I got the infamous intermittent blinking and flickering with this MagLED 2AA.
    First, I checked the cells, they are Powerex 2700 MaH and were at 1.22 and 1.24V. Not low enough not to work and not a huge difference in voltage.
    Then in my infinite wisdom I took some electrical parts cleaner spray and liberally applied it all over the light. I had previously cleaned the inside contacts with it some months ago (some drops on a Q-tip taped to a pen) so I thought some better therapy was necessary. I applied it not only to the insides but to all the threads, including the one on the head.

    Well, the next morning the flickering got much worse and it would take more effort to twist it to turn on.
    Upon examination I found this, the LED dim and loose and falling out. The liquid apparently ate through it and damaged things.

    So, the moral of the story is - don't soak it in electrical parts cleaner if it starts flickering.




    P.S. Can I still salvage it and put a better LED in it?

    I EDCed this lite for months, ever since they came out with it.

    Meanwhile, I will have to use the 3AA which is still LNIB (without usage)
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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Why don't you see if Mag will cover it under warranty?

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Quote Originally Posted by Brighteyez
    Why don't you see if Mag will cover it under warranty?
    You're kidding right? You don't see how the electronics cleaner disolved the clear lens of the Lumiled LED?

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    What's the worse they can say? No, it won't be covered under warranty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude
    You're kidding right? You don't see how the electronics cleaner disolved the clear lens of the Lumiled LED?

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    It's worth a shot - what are you out for trying??
    I love my Al-PD

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    this lesson was a cheap one

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Thanks for the helpful hint.

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Thats good to know, Thanks

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    The conclusion to the story - I went to both Target and Home Depot and while both agreed to exchange/return it, neither one had the 2AA or 3AA in stock. They offered cash but instead I got some overpriced household goods.

    I guess I will have to make do with the 3AA, which is nice, but after months of having it, it's still LNIB due no usage (the 2AA got all the usage)

    Also plan to use the 2AA MagLite NiteIze conversion which is noticeably smaller than the MagLED.

    Until MagLED comes out with Cree.

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    Damn crappy ass maglights,I have a 3AAA and use it everyday as a light and as a hammer,Mine was flickering real bad,It turns out that the solder joints,or lack of, inside the module,get loose after awhile,The module needs to be taken out of the head and the positive and negitive need to be soldered to there contact points...

    I also jumped a few parts inside mine,and got a little more output from it,and It seems as if these cells have lasted longer since I have done that :S I love my mag,But it seems to me that they left a couple of weak links in it...

    Cranked these lights out to fast after realizing that they were behind the times lol...

    Russ

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    easy on the language Russell

    miniMagLEDs have been known to flicker, I dont know whats the story there.
    I dont use mine at all simply because of this fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation
    easy on the language Russell

    miniMagLEDs have been known to flicker, I dont know whats the story there.
    I dont use mine at all simply because of this fact
    So the solution is don't use it???? It almost makes using the contact cleaner


    to put the poor light out of its misery a logical choice.

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    Yes, it does.

    I was a big fan of them, but don't think I will get anymore or recommend them to anyone. I know they flicker at low voltage, but at 1.22V is totally unacceptable. Heck, the cells themselves say they are 1.2V.

    OTOH, I did get lots of heavy duty use - used them from the day they came out and every day. So I think I got my tokens out of it.

    My next lite is likely going to be that ElektroLumens 2AA with Cree.

    After I wear out the 3AA and the Nite-Ize conversion.

    The 3AA is a better lite anyway.

    The Nite-Ize MagLite conversion is very underrated here BTW. Sure, it doesn't have the lumens or the throw of the 3W, not even close, but it's surprisingly compact and cheap with supposedly greater run time. And it hasn't flickered thus far.

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation
    easy on the language Russell

    miniMagLEDs have been known to flicker, I dont know whats the story there.
    I dont use mine at all simply because of this fact
    I have never had one flicker out of mine after soldering on it

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    Damn crappy ass maglights, I have a 3AAA and use it everyday as a ... hammer, Mine was flickering real bad, It turns out that the solder joints... get loose after awhile.

    I just can't imagine why your solder joints get loose when your using the light as a hammer every day. Maybe Mag will replace your clearly defective light under warranty if you tell them the story?
    Last edited by Turbo DV8; 02-24-2007 at 07:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    Damn crappy ass maglights,I have a 3AAA and use it everyday as a light and as a hammer,Mine was flickering real bad,It turns out that the solder joints,or lack of, inside the module,get loose after awhile,The module needs to be taken out of the head and the positive and negitive need to be soldered to there contact points...

    I also jumped a few parts inside mine,and got a little more output from it,and It seems as if these cells have lasted longer since I have done that :S I love my mag,But it seems to me that they left a couple of weak links in it...

    Cranked these lights out to fast after realizing that they were behind the times lol...

    Russ

    Maybe we can get together and start a fund for you to buy other flashlights to use as hammers. Then you can post a review thread and let us know the results of the 2007 flashlight hammer trials.

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    my 3AAA magled with a cree is great!

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    The connection points in the mags module,are not soldered,They are a springy type connection,They are metal bent in a way so that they contact the + & - sided of the module...

    After several uses,They become compressed and no longer function like they used to,so you get that nasty flicker... I simply made a direct connection,and have never had a problem again,Even after using the a** end as a hammer,mainly for beating those stubborn furnace doors back on..

    Regardless of how I treat my light now,I have no flickers,And besides,Remeber those commercials of mags getting ran over by a semi,Well I should be able to beat it a little eh? Or was that just false advertising....

    Any other smart A** comments??



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    For thos of you that just think I beat the holy hell out of this light,here is what its current condition is in..




    Last edited by Russell52; 02-24-2007 at 09:27 PM.

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    Hey Russell - nice pictures. I see you have definitely put your Mag through its paces.

    I have three 3AA Mags and have yet to develop the infamous flickering condition of these lights.

    Quick question.
    Where exactly did you solder the springy-type contacts, and what to? I studied your excellent photos and couldn't quite tell.

    So if/when my mags start to flicker, I'll be able to fix 'em.

    Your Mag is proof that they'll literally "take a lickin' and keep on tickin' .

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    returning something you BROKE for a WARENTEE claim is dishonest, and shameful- and raises prices for the rest of us.

    legitimate issues with daily use are different things, however.
    Last edited by orionlion82; 02-24-2007 at 11:54 PM.

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    Default Re: MagLED 2AA destroyed

    How exactly do you solder these contacts? How do you take the module out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumenal
    Hey Russell - nice pictures. I see you have definitely put your Mag through its paces.

    I have three 3AA Mags and have yet to develop the infamous flickering condition of these lights.

    Quick question.
    Where exactly did you solder the springy-type contacts, and what to? I studied your excellent photos and couldn't quite tell.

    So if/when my mags start to flicker, I'll be able to fix 'em.

    Your Mag is proof that they'll literally "take a lickin' and keep on tickin' .
    Hi,

    The problem lies on the positive side,if you put a blog of solder on the positive contact of the board,and also put a blob on the metal contact, on the outer side of the plastic housing,when you slide the board back into the housing you can heat up the metal contact plate on the housing,and the two wil fuse,You will know that they are fused if you cant pull the board back out..

    On the negative side I just put a blob and did not solder it,Like I say,the problem seems to be on the positive side,I also added three jumpers on the board,And the light is brighter,and it seems as if it doesnt eat batteries as bad as it did before...

    If you need more pics let me know...

    and to orionlion82,I will not warranty this light out,I would rather repair it myself as I have done.. Same with my 4 month old PS2,laser went out,so I ordered one to replace it myself:P
    Last edited by Russell52; 02-25-2007 at 09:06 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    Hi,


    If you need more pics let me know...
    Is there a picture of the circuit before the red wire was soldered into place?

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    Russell, I took my 3AA apart after seeing your pictures, and it does indeed look like the weak links are the little "paddle" contacts on the side, and the positive contact at the bottom.

    I took the little piece on the circuit board that contacts the bottom and bent it out a tad, but I will solder those side contact postitions tomorrow...thanks for the inspiration!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    I have never had one flicker out of mine after soldering on it
    Mine was modded by a user here before i bought it...
    there was no significant or definite flicker...more like PWM on low

    theres one or two when being used...but not a common occurance.

    Thanks for the pics...the "spring contacts" used in magleds are
    why cant they solder it in? not only will it provide a more stable conntection but also would help a bit from thermal isolation...and how much does a blob of solder cost these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vickers
    Russell, I took my 3AA apart after seeing your pictures, and it does indeed look like the weak links are the little "paddle" contacts on the side, and the positive contact at the bottom.

    I took the little piece on the circuit board that contacts the bottom and bent it out a tad, but I will solder those side contact postitions tomorrow...thanks for the inspiration!
    I love a brave soul :P That little metal tab on the bottom of the plastic case,I poped out,and put some solder on the inside,the a little on the outside of the plate.. also a blob on the + tab on the board,so when I slid the board back in and heated up the plate,they fused quite nicely,I just built the negative side up so that it would contact the metal,sheeth would contact better...

    Good luck,hope you get it

    Russ

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation
    Mine was modded by a user here before i bought it...
    there was no significant or definite flicker...more like PWM on low

    theres one or two when being used...but not a common occurance.

    Thanks for the pics...the "spring contacts" used in magleds are
    why cant they solder it in? not only will it provide a more stable conntection but also would help a bit from thermal isolation...and how much does a blob of solder cost these days?
    a "blob" of solder :P I would say at least 1 or 2 cents..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    a "blob" of solder :P I would say at least 1 or 2 cents..
    I guess it would be determined by the type of solder used...I once saw a "blob" from hair thin solder...at first I thought it was a bearing from a pen tip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell52
    Damn crappy ass maglights,I have a 3AAA and use it everyday as a light and as a hammer,Mine was flickering real bad,It turns out that the solder joints,or lack of, inside the module,get loose after awhile,The module needs to be taken out of the head and the positive and negitive need to be soldered to there contact points...

    I also jumped a few parts inside mine,and got a little more output from it,and It seems as if these cells have lasted longer since I have done that :S I love my mag,But it seems to me that they left a couple of weak links in it...

    Cranked these lights out to fast after realizing that they were behind the times lol...

    Russ
    Since you use your light as a hammer I was thinking if you hit yourself on the head with a hammer you are most likely to see lights. It's worth a try. (Disclaimer: Don't try this at home without adult supervision)

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