Did Fenix drop the ball
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WildChild
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No!
nerdgineer
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I think Newbie's tests showed that the Cree's had a little better performance (efficiency) than P4s, although both were about 2x better than Luxs. Also (just me), I think the soft dome of the P4 might cause issues...
+1qip said:
The performance is great, the tint is alright (no nasty green or purple at low output, and no PWM issues), the reflector is just not so great (except for being noticeably dimmer, I kind of like mine w/o a reflector and lens). A textured reflector, or maybe even just making the head in ideal dimensions for another one to drop in, would be cool.
LGCubana
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@ CPF, they were the 1st major manufacturer to produce a Cree based platform. Seoul emitters weren't out yet.
So I can't fault them for their decisions (at the time):
1. Smooth reflector
2. Mutli mode
3. Pricing
Roll forward to the present. For whatever reason, they have stagnated.
IMO, there are a multitude of enhancements they could make with minimal R&D.
1. P1D CE with a clickie
2. CR2 body for the P1D CE head, with/without a clickie
3. OP reflectors for their Cree platform
So I can't fault them for their decisions (at the time):
1. Smooth reflector
2. Mutli mode
3. Pricing
Roll forward to the present. For whatever reason, they have stagnated.
IMO, there are a multitude of enhancements they could make with minimal R&D.
1. P1D CE with a clickie
2. CR2 body for the P1D CE head, with/without a clickie
3. OP reflectors for their Cree platform
IsaacHayes
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Cree was out first. And add to the fact the cree seems more durable, I'm glad they are doing Crees. Sure, they might get a tighter beam and less spill with a P4, but I'd rather have the cree for above reasons and traits.
adirondackdestroyer
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I think Fenix did an incredible job on the L*DCE series. The only thing they can do now is make a nice textured reflector to smooth out the beam. Other than that they are just about perfect.
LightScene
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"I think Fenix did an incredible job on the L*DCE series. " They also did an incredible job on the P1D-CE. For some of us it's perfect.
I'm so happy with the Cree that I'm not concerned that some people like the SSC better. The Cree ring doesn't bother me. Time will tell which one is more durable.
I'm so happy with the Cree that I'm not concerned that some people like the SSC better. The Cree ring doesn't bother me. Time will tell which one is more durable.
Gene
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I don't think so. They're just waiting out all this "craziness"!
Dobbler
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I love my Fenix lights, but I wish they had more knurling on the bodies for a better grip.
PhantomPhoton
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I don't mind Cree. Fenix was one of the very first out with a Cree light, even before Seouls were available. That said, I think their current flashlight design and use of the Cree was sub-par on their current lights.
TORCH_BOY
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Nope
Skyline
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LightScene said:
I agree with the above. The P1D-CE has been perfect me. It's durable and tiny. I keep this one in my pocket and I know it's there, ready. I also have the L1D-CE as a more economical alternative. On a single AA, it doesn't have the high output mode of the P1D-CE. However, it handles heat dissipation better and I can always pop in a fresh NiMH.
