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    I just recieved my Wolf Eyes 170 lumen cree drop-in, from PTS. WOW.....I am truly impressed. I dont have elaborate equipment to test it on....but as a Cop in Milwaukee I will say this is the first small LED I'll carry on duty as a tactical light. It wont be my primary light, but its my back-up that I depend on should the sh*t hit the fan and my 13V Rattlesnake burn out at the wrong time.

    I compared it side by side to a SF 6P and a Fenix L2D in a very dark basement and the cree drop-in won hands down. I am TRULY impressed. Im looking forward to tonight when I can really test it out......

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    Yeah I just got my D26 (the 130 lumens version), and I'm really impressed too (running it in a Surefire G2). I wish I had the Surefire P61 bulb for comparison. Anyway, I'm sure I'll be having fun with this thing tonight!

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    [QUOTE=EvilPaul2112]I just recieved my Wolf Eyes 170 lumen cree drop-in, from PTS. WOW.....but as a Cop in Milwaukee I will say this is the first small LED I'll carry on duty as a tactical light. It wont be my primary light, but its my back-up that I depend on should the sh*t hit the fan and my 13V Rattlesnake burn out at the wrong time. QUOTE] WTG on both lights I have shown my Rattlesnake to a few LEOs. and their Streamlights. I ordered a 170 cree drop in for my 6P Wolf Eyes light. Have you considered the LED tail cap for your Rattlesnake? I have a UV on mine . It could help with IDs etc and stains.

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    i have been looking for just this drop-in for my sf C2 is there any gap issue i had a DX style drop-in that was not that impressive and broke in 3 days

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    What light did you put the drop-in into?

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilPaul2112
    I just recieved my Wolf Eyes 170 lumen cree drop-in, from PTS. WOW.....I am truly impressed. I dont have elaborate equipment to test it on....but as a Cop in Milwaukee I will say this is the first small LED I'll carry on duty as a tactical light. It wont be my primary light, but its my back-up that I depend on should the sh*t hit the fan and my 13V Rattlesnake burn out at the wrong time.

    I compared it side by side to a SF 6P and a Fenix L2D in a very dark basement and the cree drop-in won hands down. I am TRULY impressed. Im looking forward to tonight when I can really test it out......
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes cree drop-in

    With all the offerings available currently, I too am looking at the Wolfeyes for my recently acquired M2. Was wondering, how are the WE drop-ins with rechargeables? I am looking at using just a single 17670 to drive them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumpstat
    With all the offerings available currently, I too am looking at the Wolfeyes for my recently acquired M2. Was wondering, how are the WE drop-ins with rechargeables? I am looking at using just a single 17670 to drive them.
    Jumpstat, no problem at all, that is all I run mine on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glen C
    Jumpstat, no problem at all, that is all I run mine on.
    Good to hear it ok to drive it on single 17670's. Is PTS the only source for this WE drop in?
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    Can someone take a picture to compare P60/P61 with the Cree module ?
    With the same manual settings on the camera.
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    I installed the LED lamp in an old SF 6p. Its supposed to deliver regulated output for 90 minutes and then unregulated light for several hours. Just what I needed for a back-up light.

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    What is the 170-lumen module's run-time with 1 x 18650?
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    Love mine as well, seems whiter / brighter than my Fenix P3D. I isolated the reflector from the Pyrex with a -016 Viton o-ring. I did, however have a problem with the light going out on me. It didn't seem to have anything to do with shock...my guess is it's more sensitive to loose tail-caps. I'll have to do some more testing. Just wondered if anyone else noticed this.
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    Glen, when do you think Australia will get the joy of seeing some of these?
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    Keeper, we were actually the first to have the 130 lumens Cree drop in, we should have the 170 very soon now.

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    [QUOTE=tsask]
    Quote Originally Posted by EvilPaul2112
    Have you considered the LED tail cap for your Rattlesnake? I have a UV on mine . It could help with IDs etc and stains.
    This is a PROBLEM I just found. I have a Raider. In order to use the led tailcaps, batteries must be pos. end at the tailcap. No problem with the xenon bulb. BIG PROBLEM with the cree drop in--batteries must be pos. end at the bulb. You can run cree and no led tailcap or xenon with led tailcap

    I am using 2 protected 17500's from AW. I have the tactical tailcap, white and red led tailcaps.
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    Yeah, I noticed the same thing, so I ordered a clickie with my Cree drop in.
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    Wow, I just learned something. All this time I thought my 9V 130L cree was defective (didn't work after trying either with one or two 18650 rechargeables but the led tailcap worked). Thanks dca2. I guess I didn't try flipping the batteries 'cause I was using the extension tube on the WE Sniper and thought this could be the problem (bad contact). Mike @ PTS mentioned to me that the 9V would not work under 6 volts (this was during pre-order communication). So when it didn't work, I assumed he was right. But, thanks again to dca2, after inserting the batteries "+" against bulb, the 9V cree works fine (though using one 18650 is dimmer - similar to the LP D-mini on low). Now I'm happy knowing the cree LA works.
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    I got two of the D26, 130 lumens, Wolf Eyes Cree drop-ins yesterday. I put one in my Surefire C2 and one in my Surefire G2Z, each one powered by one AW 17670 li-ion rechargeable. The build quality of these is light years better than the $12.50 Deal Extreme drop ins. The beam is not as blue as the DX dropins and has more side spill. Compared to the stock Surefire P60 or P61, these Cree light engines blow them away! I left the G2Z on for an hour and it got warm, but didn't look like it was in danger of melting anything. I left my C2 on for 8 hours and at the end of 8 hours, the brightness was down to maybe 40% of the beginning brightness, but hey try that with a P60 or P61! These cost 4 times as much as the Deal Extreme Cree drop ins, but I couldn't get the DX units to work with 17670s and I was having flickering issues with 2x123 batteries, so these units were definitely worth it.
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    How do I get my grubby little paws on one of these and a Wolf Eyes 6AX? I keep waiting for PTS to post on their availability, but there's been nothing on the site and Mike didn't respond to my e-mail (I'm guessing I got spam trapped or something).
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1match
    I got two of the D26, 130 lumens, Wolf Eyes Cree drop-ins yesterday. I put one in my Surefire C2 and one in my Surefire G2Z, each one powered by one AW 17670 li-ion rechargeable. The build quality of these is light years better than the $12.50 Deal Extreme drop ins. The beam is not as blue as the DX dropins and has more side spill. Compared to the stock Surefire P60 or P61, these Cree light engines blow them away! I left the G2Z on for an hour and it got warm, but didn't look like it was in danger of melting anything. I left my C2 on for 8 hours and at the end of 8 hours, the brightness was down to maybe 40% of the beginning brightness, but hey try that with a P60 or P61! These cost 4 times as much as the Deal Extreme Cree drop ins, but I couldn't get the DX units to work with 17670s and I was having flickering issues with 2x123 batteries, so these units were definitely worth it.

    Hi,

    1) your 130 lumens Cree dropin's, are they the new 3,7v-13v Cree from Wolf-Eyes ? Or the 3,7v-6v dropin you have ?

    2) Are they regulated with single 3,7v 17670 ?

    In another post, the HO Cree 170 lumens (3,7v-13v) don't seems to be regulated with 3,7v Li-ion cell.

    Thanks for responding.

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    wow. ho is dimmer than lo.
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    I placed my order with PTS as a pre-order- the website said they weren't available. Apparently they got some in because I got my order within a week.

    I got the D26 3.7V-13V drop ins. I also got the spring for Surefires and the unit with spring was a perfect fit and function in my C2 and G2Z. As far as I can tell they work and are regulated with a single AW 17670.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m1match
    I got the D26 3.7V-13V drop ins. As far as I can tell they work and are regulated with a single AW 17670.
    Thanks. You say that the 130 lumens Cree is regulated. Good news.
    I have ordered and waiting both 130 and 170 lumens new Cree from W-E.

    Hope the 170 lumens is regulated too.
    Because I plan to use it in W-E D2AX + 18650.

    130 lumens will take place in Surefire M2 + 17670.

    If someone could cofirm that the 170 lumen Cree is regulated too, I will be glad.
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    I believe that if you go nito the site (Search for "Cree") and bring the selection up....then go to "description".....and Mike has the run times for different battery configurations including the length of time under regulation and after they drop out. VERY useful information and I think you will find answers to almost all of your questions there. As I recall both lampa ssembles are regulated.
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    Could somebody post some beamshots of these WE cree drop in, please?
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    From PTS site :



    Cree XR-E LED 3.7V-13V D26 Lamp *130 Lumen*

    The new Cree LED is the most advanced LED on the market so far. This new lamp is perfect for weapons mounting and makes an almost indestructible duty light for Law Enforcement.



    Specifications

    • Brightness: 130 Lumens
    • Regulated voltage: 3.7 – 13V
    • Runtime (1x168A battery): 180 minutes with regulated output, 30 minutes with unregulated output
    • Runtime (2xCR123 batteries): 130 minutes with regulated output, 5 hours with unregulated output
    • Reflector: Lightly stippled (orange peel)
    • Diameter: D26
    • Fits Wolf Eyes D26 models and Surefire P60 type models
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    Cree XR-E LED 3.7V-13V D26 Lamp *High Output*

    The new Cree LED is the most advanced LED on the market so far. This new lamp is perfect for weapons mounting and makes an almost indestructible duty light for Law Enforcement.

    Specifications:



    Cree HO 3.7V-13V D26/ D36 lamp assembly



    • Output: 170 lumens
    • Voltage: 3.7V-13V
    • Runtime (2-CR123A batteries): 90 minutes with regulated output, and 8 hours with unregulated output.
    • Runtime (3-CR123A batteries): 180 minutes with regulated output, and 14 hours with unregulated output.
    • Runtime (4-CR123A batteries): 270 minutes with regulated output, and 16 hours with unregulated output.
    • Runtime (2-LRB150A batteries): 160 minutes with regulated output
    • Runtime (3-LRB150A batteries): 270 minutes with regulated output
    • Runtime (1-LRB168A batteries): 100 minutes with regulated output

    Hope these specs are true.


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    From information posted in the Dealers Corner, it appears the HO 170 lumen version regulates from 4.8 volts on up (not 3.7 as listed by MFG) - according to the current measurements. This would also coorelate to the MFG listing only runtimes with 2 or more cells with the HO 170 lumen version

    I hope the 130 lumen version is regulated for use with one cell like the times provided by the MFG suggest. It would be cool if we could see current readings for this module to confirm.

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    I see, thanks. I'll get ahold of PTS tomorrow and place an order.
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    I'm contemplating buying one of these for my SF M2 to use as a duty light once I get the M2 bored out for 18650's. Beamshots please. This thread is useless without beamshots. Does the reflector actually have a Light Orange Peel finish? The pictures on Pacific Tactical Solutions website show a smooth reflector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by regulator
    From information posted in the Dealers Corner, it appears the HO 170 lumen version regulates from 4.8 volts on up (not 3.7 as listed by MFG) - according to the current measurements. This would also coorelate to the MFG listing only runtimes with 2 or more cells with the HO 170 lumen version

    I hope the 130 lumen version is regulated for use with one cell like the times provided by the MFG suggest. It would be cool if we could see current readings for this module to confirm.

    Cree HO 3.7V-13V D26/ D36 lamp assembly
    • Output: 170 lumens
    • Voltage: 3.7V-13V
    • Runtime (1-LRB168A batteries): 100 minutes with regulated output

    170 lumens Cree is supposed to be regulated 100 minutes with single 18650.
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