Phaserburn
Flashlight Enthusiast
I have several of the different Cree drop-ins, and when looking at them last night came up with some observations...
The standard and high output units aren't noticeably different in output. Luck of the lottery? Can't say of course, but would like to hear other's experiences with the two different modules.
The Wolf Eyes setups have three distinct heat related advantages:
1. The WE modules themselves have as much or usually significantly more mass for heat sinking. Some I haven't seen yet may match them, but the WE units are built heavy.
2. When using a WE unit in conjunction with a WE light, heat sinking rises enormously. The WE unit is designed to sit perfectly with all of it's bottom edge contacting the brass inner tubing of the light. This provides a large thermal pathway for heat to escape the module and enter a light that is sure to contain more mass for it's size than almost any other brand (again, built heavy). Most other drop in hosts require the outer spring for electrical contact and do NOT make full physical contact with the host body. I ran WE and other modules in non-WE plastic AND metal hosts, and they get HOT quickly. But, the outer spring doesn't seem to conduct heat to the host body well at all (the front edge sits on the glass lens), in essence isolating the drop-in unit ala a Mag bulb pedestal.
3. WE builds a D36 Cree drop in (does anyone else?). It has even MORE mass than their D26.
The WE units also have great fit/finish on the reflector and make as smooth a beam as I've seen. They also produce good spill and NOT maximum throw, which is what I like. They throw well but are like their incan lamps. From what I've observed, match the unit to the number of cells you'll be using for best regulation: 3.7-6V version for 2x123 or 18650, 3.7-13V for 2 li-ions of any size.
Personal note: I like to only buy lights, being led or incan, that can be run for the duration of the battery capacity without regards for damaging li-ion cells, emitter, etc. For me, running a HO Cree drop in continuously REQUIRES a WE-WE combo of unit and light because of it's excellent heat sinking advantage. What's the point of all this great runtime if you don't always have access to all of it if and when you want it?
WE builds multi-mode drop-ins, which I don't even have yet but am looking forward to.
The standard and high output units aren't noticeably different in output. Luck of the lottery? Can't say of course, but would like to hear other's experiences with the two different modules.
The Wolf Eyes setups have three distinct heat related advantages:
1. The WE modules themselves have as much or usually significantly more mass for heat sinking. Some I haven't seen yet may match them, but the WE units are built heavy.
2. When using a WE unit in conjunction with a WE light, heat sinking rises enormously. The WE unit is designed to sit perfectly with all of it's bottom edge contacting the brass inner tubing of the light. This provides a large thermal pathway for heat to escape the module and enter a light that is sure to contain more mass for it's size than almost any other brand (again, built heavy). Most other drop in hosts require the outer spring for electrical contact and do NOT make full physical contact with the host body. I ran WE and other modules in non-WE plastic AND metal hosts, and they get HOT quickly. But, the outer spring doesn't seem to conduct heat to the host body well at all (the front edge sits on the glass lens), in essence isolating the drop-in unit ala a Mag bulb pedestal.
3. WE builds a D36 Cree drop in (does anyone else?). It has even MORE mass than their D26.
The WE units also have great fit/finish on the reflector and make as smooth a beam as I've seen. They also produce good spill and NOT maximum throw, which is what I like. They throw well but are like their incan lamps. From what I've observed, match the unit to the number of cells you'll be using for best regulation: 3.7-6V version for 2x123 or 18650, 3.7-13V for 2 li-ions of any size.
Personal note: I like to only buy lights, being led or incan, that can be run for the duration of the battery capacity without regards for damaging li-ion cells, emitter, etc. For me, running a HO Cree drop in continuously REQUIRES a WE-WE combo of unit and light because of it's excellent heat sinking advantage. What's the point of all this great runtime if you don't always have access to all of it if and when you want it?
WE builds multi-mode drop-ins, which I don't even have yet but am looking forward to.
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