Malkoff or BUG Premium Plus drop in

StainlessSteel · Aug 17, 2007

Which is the better drop in for the Surefire 6p? Which one would be brighter? What are the beam patterns like?

The Malkoff:
http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=18

Or the Bug Out Gear USA Premium Plus 170 Lumen Drop in:
http://blackforce.stores.yahoo.net/cosoplcrmo.html

jbviau · Aug 17, 2007

Here are a couple of threads for you to look at:

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2062790
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/169393

I don't own either. I do have a Wolf Eyes 4-mode drop-in, which I really like. I think the consensus is that the Malkoff has the edge in terms of brightness and thermal regulation.

EvilPaul2112 · Aug 17, 2007

I have many drop-ins including bugoutgear and Malkoff, and I much prefer the Malkoff P60. The P60 is the brightest drop-in Ive purchased with the nicest smooth spot beam. The beam is more concentrated and tighter than bugout and Wolf-Eyes, with the same spill light. Malkoff also has the heaviest of the drop-ins and he understands important thermal issues. The $10-$20 drop-ins lose output after they get hot and I even fried one of them after only 20 minutes. Malkoff's P60 doesnt lose output (Ive run mine over 30 minutes, installed in a 6P, several times without lose of light, damage, or excessive heat).

Another advantage of the Malkoff drop-in is Gene himself. He builds each one by hand and wont sell any product that doesnt meet his standards. Gene's customer service is second to none and his shipping is lightning fast.

Ive purchased (5) of the P60 drop-ins for myself and others and couldnt be happier.

jbviau · Aug 17, 2007

Amazingly (to me) the Malkoff drop-ins have been available all week on Gene's site, and at a discount no less. I've been very tempted to snag one. Would like a metal host first though...

SaVaGe · Aug 17, 2007

EvilPaul2112 said:
I have many drop-ins including bugoutgear and Malkoff, and I much prefer the Malkoff P60. The P60 is the brightest drop-in Ive purchased with the nicest smooth spot beam. The beam is more concentrated and tighter than bugout and Wolf-Eyes, with the same spill light. Malkoff also has the heaviest of the drop-ins and he understands important thermal issues. The $10-$20 drop-ins lose output after they get hot and I even fried one of them after only 20 minutes. Malkoff's P60 doesnt lose output (Ive run mine over 30 minutes, installed in a 6P, several times without lose of light, damage, or excessive heat).

Another advantage of the Malkoff drop-in is Gene himself. He builds each one by hand and wont sell any product that doesnt meet his standards. Gene's customer service is second to none and his shipping is lightning fast.

Ive purchased (5) of the P60 drop-ins for myself and others and couldnt be happier.

+100:twothumbs:twothumbs

eagleswhite44 · Aug 17, 2007

jbviau said:
Amazingly (to me) the Malkoff drop-ins have been available all week on Gene's site, and at a discount no less. I've been very tempted to snag one. Would like a metal host first though...

I purchased one on Monday, received it on Wednesday. When I ordered mine they had 6 avail., would have purhased another but waiting for the Maglite drop in

jbviau · Aug 17, 2007

Oops, correction: Now the Malkoffs are sold out. I should have pulled the trigger when I had the chance!

StainlessSteel · Aug 17, 2007

jbviau said:
Oops, correction: Now the Malkoffs are sold out. I should have pulled the trigger when I had the chance!

I must have bought the LAST ONE.

I ordered it around 1:30 PM today.

Policetacteam · Aug 18, 2007

Gene,
Any idea when more will be available. I would like at least two and a couple of guys on my team are also wanting some.

Gene43 · Aug 18, 2007

Hopefully, this week.

victory · Aug 18, 2007

I have no experiance with the bug out gear drop in, but i did just but a drop in from gene. My review is on his sight. Short story, it brought my G2 out of the closet and back on my hip.

StainlessSteel · Aug 18, 2007

Well. I have BOTH the BOG Premium Plus and the Malkoff on the way.

I will let you guys know what I think of both of them, when compared side by side.

One will be my EDC and the other will sit on my nightstand for "late night encounters."

Also, one more question... if you put these drop-ins into 9 volt lights, like the Surefire 9p, will they be BRIGHTER?... or just give you more runtime?

thanks.

Gene43 · Aug 18, 2007

Just more runtime.

CARNAL1 · Aug 18, 2007

I have both the Malkoff and the BOG Premium Plus. The Malkoff is installed in my Surefire M2 and the BOG PP is installed in my Surefire Z2. I like the pure white output of the BOG, but the Malkoff has a warmer tint and thus better color rendition. They both have great output but the one drawback of the BOG is that it has no spring at the rear of the unit. This limits the lights that I can install it in. I would have to use a spacer in between the batteries so that the top button will reach the bottom of the dropin. I will not spend my hard earned money (again) on a drop-in that has such a glaring oversight. Go with the Malkoff. Between the Man and the Artwork that he makes, you can't go wrong. He reminds me of another Man that we all know, who had the dream to make the perfect EDC. His name is Peter Gransee and his work of art is the ARC line of lights. Spend your money on a Malkoff and you won't regret it. Just my 2 cents.

H.D.T. - Happy Dark Trails

BugOutGear_USA · Aug 19, 2007

CARNAL1 said:
I have both the Malkoff and the BOG Premium Plus. The Malkoff is installed in my Surefire M2 and the BOG PP is installed in my Surefire Z2. I like the pure white output of the BOG, but the Malkoff has a warmer tint and thus better color rendition. They both have great output but the one drawback of the BOG is that it has no spring at the rear of the unit. This limits the lights that I can install it in. I would have to use a spacer in between the batteries so that the top button will reach the bottom of the dropin. I will not spend my hard earned money (again) on a drop-in that has such a glaring oversight. Go with the Malkoff. Between the Man and the Artwork that he makes, you can't go wrong. He reminds me of another Man that we all know, who had the dream to make the perfect EDC. His name is Peter Gransee and his work of art is the ARC line of lights. Spend your money on a Malkoff and you won't regret it. Just my 2 cents.

H.D.T. - Happy Dark Trails

...or you could of just let us know what model flashlight you intended to use it in and we would have included a contact spring...The majority of flashlights our module is designed for do not need a spring, however some older models(being slightly shorter) will need a contact spring(which we gladly include if you check the correct box when ordering). It wasn't so much and oversight, but rather a solution to a common problem seen early on in drop-in modules known as "head gap". Other drop-in modules weren't allowing for the head to screw down all the way leaving a slight gap of 1-3mm. Let me know if you would like me to send you a contact spring.

Regards,
Flavio
BugoutGearUSA.com

BSBG · Aug 25, 2007

I did a search but couldn't f inda definite answer - will the Malkoff P60 be OK in a 9P?

Thanks.

bullinchinashop · Aug 25, 2007

The guy that makes the Malkoffs says that his adapters are only intended to be used for short blasts. If you need a light that you can keep on for more than a few minutes you might want to keep that in mind. Ligthound also sells a cree bulb for Surefire

http://www.lighthound.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2605

and so do Bug out Gear.

http://www.bugoutgearusa.com/prcrdrmo.html

and

http://www.bugoutgearusa.com/cosoplcrmo.html

Bullzeyebill · Aug 25, 2007

BSBG, read posts 12 and 13.

Bill

BSBG · Aug 25, 2007

Bullzeyebill said:
BSBG, read posts 12 and 13.

Bill

Doh,how did I miss the reply from the man himself...:shakehead

Thanks!

Gene43 · Aug 25, 2007

The 15 min time constraint is mainly for plastic lights. You can run the Malkoff for about as long as you want in a metal light.

Thanks, Gene

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