Building a Q4559X

plasmaman

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Can anyone tell me what the optimum input voltage is for this lamp? Obviously not less than 28v.
I have the lamp installed in a host and am waiting on some A123 3.3v cells from a Dewalt 36v pack.
Would the lamp take all 10 cells or is that a recipe for :poof:?
 

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I use 24 ea. Elite 4500 Nimh cells. Fresh off the charger - unloaded, pack voltage is about 35.5 and quickly falls to about 33.5 - 34 Volts in about an hour to two. I light mine off at a max of 34 unloaded Volts. Upon flicking the switch, Voltage immediately falls to 31.5. The light runs great at these voltages and I've not flashed one yet. I might be a tiny bit more conservative with the A123 cells. They evidently sag very little. Maybe limit yourself to 32 Volts, unloaded and creep up a quarter volt at a time to a max of 34.
 
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plasmaman

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Whoohoo!
Nailed it all together today - and yowzaa!!
I will do some pics, maybe tomorrow, but spec is:
-Horrible plastic 5,000,000 candle power host
-Q4559X lamp - secondhand (I bought 6!)
-10 x A123 cells from new Dewalt pack, built as a 6S and 4S so I can charge and balance. (Not added the balance leads yet)
-Maestro JimmyM SST board - so standard switch is OK - but added ally heatsink to top of FET
-12awg silicone leads, 30A fuse
How bright is it? I need to find a way to measure this, but the beam is quite a nice shape and throws forever. Its a bit murky here tonight and difficult to tell, but I'm guessing at least 1000 yards.......It makes a nice boing (or is it Boeing) sound when fired up as the power nails the filament!
Total cost less than $200 of which batteries were $160.
 

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HOLY CRAP! I thought it might be close. I wasn't really sure. I told plasmaman to go for it. Half expecting it to pack up in a cloud of smoke. Of course I would have replaced it for free. But WOW. I knew these things were tough, but sheesh!
So I guess I don't need to build a L14K specific version now.

Plasmaman,
In the batch 2 boards, I've changed one of the component values in the design to reduce switching losses even further.
Would you mind posting in the JM-SST sales thread that you've tested the board with the L14K and it survived.
 

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Good news about the JM-SST and it's power handling capabilities. I guess I will have to install mine in my LarryK14 now. I would still like an SST for my 42V HyperBlitz though. An external pot for brightness would be really nice too. It would be fun to turn it down a little and show it off and then turn it up and blow everybody away. High power incans are so fun.

Regards,
Mark
 

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Good news about the JM-SST and it's power handling capabilities. I guess I will have to install mine in my LarryK14 now. I would still like an SST for my 42V HyperBlitz though. An external pot for brightness would be really nice too. It would be fun to turn it down a little and show it off and then turn it up and blow everybody away. High power incans are so fun.

Regards,
Mark
How many amps does that Blitz pull?
 

plasmaman

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Here she is!
The par64 Q4559X fits perfectly. A bit of dremelling to remove a few tabs and other obstructions, but the lamp now sits tightly in the host

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The business end - the glass is a bit etched, presumably bird strike, lightning bolts, etc etc
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Battery compartment - this slides down and the batteries slide on on the tray I made
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Inside - I made a 'floor' for the battery tray to slide in on. The tray is a cutdown project box, perfect width. I cut the end off as it was too short, but used the cut off as a stop, and also to mount the JimmyM SST, to which I added a cutdown computer ally heatsink attached with AA to the top of the FET. Inline 30A fuse on the +ve feed. Hats off to Jimmy - he thought the board might explode!
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With the lamp in place. Ready to go back together.
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OK, not so pretty, but stonking output and terrific fun!
Need to add balance leads to the 6S and 4S packs, which are connected with Powerpole connectors to run as a 10S pack in situ, and then dress the pack nicely with some Duct tape.

If anyone wants a Q4559X lamp unit, let me know - I don't think I'm gonna build 5 more!

Thanks to everyone on CPF for the knowledge and inspiration to do this - its a really easy and fun project if you can find the right host. Everyone needs a LarryK!:twothumbs
 

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Mine has been one of my best bang for the buck lights. It's always fun to show it to someone and get that holy &%# look on there faces. Aim yours at a black garbage bag from around 6 feet and watch how fast it starts to shrivel up and start to melt.
 

JetskiMark

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Hello plasmaman,

Good job on your build! You are going to have a lot of fun with your light. Show it off to some unsuspecting friends. The reactions are great, usually provoking profanity.

Regards,
Mark
 

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eyy, good one! :twothumbs Good job with the battery pack - it looks good, and the wiring and connectors.
It looks some kind of packaging tape, the kind with strapping/reinforcing. ?
 
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