is FARKLE normal?

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Zephyr

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Hello everyone,

Is farkle normal? What if I were to buy an LSH-S and found out that there's a farkle problem, should I send it back to ARC and have them exchange it for one without the farkle? Or, should I just leave it alone? Just wondering. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much and take care.

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i wouldn't call it *normal*, but it is purely cosmetic and doesn't affect the output...

i personally wouldn't... /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
 

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FARKLE!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yellowlaugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yellowlaugh.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yellowlaugh.gif

What a word. Sounds more like a verb than a noun! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif Who coined this one, and how??
 

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Check out this thread for an explanation of farkle
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Hope this helps,
 

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Ahh,

Now I get it. Interesting! I think since it's a two-part silicone, they could clean it up with xylene before it sets up. Once it's cured. No luck.

W

You guys are good!
 

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Does anybody have an ARC LSH-Premium that has farkle in it? Or does this occur only in the standard line of LSH? Thanks for all the input everyone!!

ZEPH
 

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Zephyr said:
Does anybody have an ARC LSH-Premium that has farkle in it? Or does this occur only in the standard line of LSH? Thanks for all the input everyone!!
ZEPH

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I do and I assure you there are quite a few LSHPs that have the Farkle. I don't like it but I can live with it. It doesn't affect the beam quality.
 

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My LSH-P has lots of farkle. It's even more than the one in the pix posted by Bart. But the beam is just fine, so i can live with it.

My brother's 2 LS lights (a HD and a LD) both have no farkle. They're not ArcLights. Having said that, I still prefer my LSH-P.
 

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The CMG's I saw had no farkles. I thought ARC could be far better in all aspects at that price. Kind of let me down. But I'll live with it.
 

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Peter has adressed Lumileds about the "farkle" problem.
From the same thread where the pic came from:

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Klaus- I hope you don't mind me using your picture. I hosted this copy so it doesn't use your bandwidth.

I too was very concerned for the health of the LED when I first noticed the farkle. My thinking was that the silicone was obviously placed there for a reason and moving it might affect the delicate parts inside.

I spoke to alway helpful Sal Cassirino at Lumileds about this and this is what I learned:

- The material is a silicone gel. It is two part and does cure from a liquid to a gel. It is placed inside the dome to facilitate optical coupling between the die and the dome lens.

- It is normal to find a small amount of residue on the outside of the black bezel. Pressing on the lens may cause a very small amount of oozing (Sal said he observed it with a microscope) but should not be appreciable.

-Pressing on the bezel certainly should not cause any silicone to ooz out of the dome. The bezel is designed for relatively large loads and transfers any pressure past the dome, die, cup and aluminum slug directly to the PCB.

Btw, All Arc LS designs do not apply any downward pressure to the dome of the LED. We press the NX05 optic firmly against the bezel only.

- If some how some of the silicone was removed from inside the dome, a bubble would result near the edge that would interefere with coupling in that area. It would not damage the die.

- Clean up of the residue is fairly difficult because of it's oily, sticky nature. Care must also be taken with the nearby dome. Lumileds is looking for solutions we might use to clean this area. We (Arc) have also come up with several methods that reduce (but not elimenate) the amount of residue.

See my notes above for other farkle thoughts.

Hope this helps.
Peter Gransee

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