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    Default Spartanian 2, Reviews, Videos & News. A Different 16340 Light

    REVIEW added.
    NEW Video added.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNKfAHyrxyo
    ON/OFF, +/-, Tactical/Regular
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI4zrn2D3ts
    Default Brightness Setting at Any Time.

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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1, released. [Photos]

    Part A: What's new on this light?


    The Control Ring is the most interesting feature of Spartanian2.
    It could be drove by only one finger.

    Turn it, All functions will appear.

    Go Left, the light will be ON at the highest current until you loosen the finger.
    Go Right, and keep for about 1 sec, the light is constantly ON.

    Then,
    Go left, the bright level down. or right to level up.

    Too bright? Just go back.

    Go Right, and keep it again, the light is OFF.
    or Go Left, keep for 1.5 sec, the twinkle shows the voltage of battery. ~2.7: once; 2.7~3.3: twice; 3.3~3.6: 3; 3.6~3.8: 4; 3.8~4: 5; 4~: 6;




    Part B:

    Made of Alcoa 7075-T651 or Alcoa 6061-T6
    HAIII, 50~60um. Gray or Green or Black.
    CREE XR-E Q5 bin.
    Foretech Driver Board for Spartanian2.
    13 levels. (from 0.5mA to 700mA).
    1*16340/RCR123A battery.
    Fully Regulated.
    Over-discharge and reverse protection.
    SCHOTT B270 & Dual-coated Lens.
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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1, released. [Photos]

    So... How much and where is it available

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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1, released. [Photos]

    Em. This is the RC1 version,
    it means, we still need to fix some bug before sending out review samples,
    then others.
    Quote Originally Posted by olrac View Post
    So... How much and where is it available
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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos & UI].

    Some more information:

    Size-
    Length 8.6cm/3.4inch
    Dia. 2.6~3.1cm/1~1.2inch

    No tail switch.
    One or Two finger could turn the control ring to left or right,
    and it will go back to original place while you loosen the finger.
    So, we could get 4 kinds of act on it:

    Left ,
    Left and keep,
    Right,
    Right and Keep.

    With these 4 acts, this light has its multilevel and tactical functions.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Ah, now i understand the UI.

    Intesting, very interesting...

    Curious to see how durable the switch is. I'll line up to test this one!

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    So the ring some sort of spring loaded and will pop back to center position?

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Quote Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post
    So the ring some sort of spring loaded and will pop back to center position?
    Exactly right! That's the most important part in this light.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Very Interesting UI...

    ...Timeframe till production?

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    Evilgrin07 Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Hi Neo,

    This looks original and well-conceived! I like the very low level at 0.5 ma. Some flat surfaces or knurling near the tail could be useful to keep the light from slipping (spinning) during the rotary operation.

    I will keep an eye on this. Thank you!
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    WOW! Great to hear that you like the design. And thanks for your advice.
    Yes. knurling will be added.
    We will do our best to make it more and more reliable.

    Quote Originally Posted by martonic View Post
    Hi Neo,

    This looks original and well-conceived! I like the very low level at 0.5 ma. Some flat surfaces or knurling near the tail could be useful to keep the light from slipping (spinning) during the rotary operation.

    I will keep an eye on this. Thank you!
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Clickie, Twisty, and this Ring, Do you think the ring will be better than the other?
    Hope to hear your opinions.
    If you have any question about the UI,
    Please note it here. THX.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Really nice. One problem I've thought of, though:

    So, you go right and keep to turn it on, then go left to decrease the level. If you go left and keep, then you get the voltage warning, so that means you must go left multiple times- this may be a bit annoying to get to the lowest level.
    Also, IMO, there are slightly too many battery levels- although it's easy enough to remember (more blinks is good), counting out 6 slow blinks could be annoying, but make it blink too fast and you could miss the number....


    Apart from that, seems a really good UI. Can you do the ring with just a thumb?

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Thank you ! Jarl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarl View Post
    Really nice. One problem I've thought of, though:

    So, you go right and keep to turn it on, then go left to decrease the level. If you go left and keep, then you get the voltage warning, so that means you must go left multiple times- this may be a bit annoying to get to the lowest level.
    ==Yes. Not only getting down, but also getting up. Left+Keep=voltage, Right+Keep=OFF.
    My personal way is: Setting default level at the 3rd or 4th lowest one.
    That's 12mA or 50mA. When I need a bright ray, I always go Left directly to get tactical 700mA.

    Also, IMO, there are slightly too many battery levels- although it's easy enough to remember (more blinks is good), counting out 6 slow blinks could be annoying, but make it blink too fast and you could miss the number....
    ==It's fast, but clear enough, we will try to publish a video about it.



    Apart from that, seems a really good UI. Can you do the ring with just a thumb?
    ==Yes, I always do so. And other finger around the waist. And two fingers to control the ring is also very natural.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Aha, custom default levels. This just got a whole lot better, and it was already really good


    I may just have to go into RCR's, what with this and the TK10....

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Looks very interesting. What happens if you give the light to someone who has not been instructed on the operation? Can they figure out the switch? (that tends to be a good way to test for ease of use).
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    When things are really dark, a dim light for a long time is much better than a blinding light for a short time.

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Quote Originally Posted by Theatre Booth Guy View Post
    Looks very interesting. What happens if you give the light to someone who has not been instructed on the operation? Can they figure out the switch? (that tends to be a good way to test for ease of use).
    They will find the temporary ON function at first.
    I think.
    The constant ON need an instruction.
    But after that, up or down will be natural.
    When people know that Right and Keep = ON,
    then he will try to find OFF by testing Right and Keep or Left and Keep.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Quote Originally Posted by Theatre Booth Guy View Post
    Looks very interesting. What happens if you give the light to someone who has not been instructed on the operation? Can they figure out the switch? (that tends to be a good way to test for ease of use).
    Like most multi-mode lights, they'll go "WTF mate?". However, I suppose if you're lending it to someone, just tell them to push it left for on...

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Unless you are in habbit of loaning out very expensive tools to others without a single thought ...

    Which brings back to one of the question; is it cheaper than SureFire Titan ? :-)

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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    We still have works to do before sending out samples to reviewers.
    Selfbuilt, X2X3X2, and ernsanada ...
    I let them wait too long.

    The report on Output vs Runtime will be available first.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Video added.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dWWUUuV3q8

    It's taken by a cellphone, I will release better version later.
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    Default Re: An UI never used before. Spartanian 2, RC1 version, released. [Photos added].

    Looks good. When you go right, does it come on immediately or after 1.5 seconds? Having to wait could be a little annoying... perhaps have it come on as soon as you go right, then flash when you can release it without it turning off.

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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1, released. [Photos]

    Quote Originally Posted by neoseikan View Post
    Part A: What's new on this light?

    Go Right, and keep for about 1 sec, the light is constantly ON.

    .
    Hi Noiseikan,

    Good news ,Spartanian 2 is this what I'm waiting for Looks pretty good,
    But as for me waiting 1s to switch it permanently on is waaay to long

    I would prefer to have it this way, as simply as possible;

    - Rear clickie switches on-off

    front ring:

    - turn left and keep, the bright level down, release at desired level and it keeps it constantly

    - turn right an keep -the bright level up , release at desired level and it keeps it constantly

    - memory function

    - soft click once -it goes to strobe mode

    That's all I would expect

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    Default Re: Spartanian 2, RC1, released. [Photos]

    Hi. We have edited the codes, the time for ON and Battery check and OFF is shorter. The one in my hand is a original model.
    And the two switch design is protected by a patent.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zefiryn View Post
    Hi Noiseikan,

    Good news ,Spartanian 2 is this what I'm waiting for Looks pretty good,
    But as for me waiting 1s to switch it permanently on is waaay to long

    I would prefer to have it this way, as simply as possible;

    - Rear clickie switches on-off

    front ring:

    - turn left and keep, the bright level down, release at desired level and it keeps it constantly

    - turn right an keep -the bright level up , release at desired level and it keeps it constantly

    - memory function

    - soft click once -it goes to strobe mode

    That's all I would expect
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    Default Re: Spartanian II, new UI. [video added] One Ring Controls All.

    Very nice

    how much

    how much


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    Hi. guys.
    Do you think a string is necessary for it?
    Where is your favorite to add it?
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    I hope you have checked your patents well. This is just off the top of my head, but SF has a patent on a dial control effecting intensity. Maybe your's works in another fashion though, may want to double check, it was issued last year, if I remember right. Just a heads up to check, it may be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blacklight View Post
    I hope you have checked your patents well. This is just off the top of my head, but SF has a patent on a dial control effecting intensity. Maybe your's works in another fashion though, may want to double check, it was issued last year, if I remember right. Just a heads up to check, it may be fine.
    Thank you, Blacklight.
    If surefire has no other patents which still in secret,
    then I have checked and passed by it.
    Some key different in the patent terms.
    I also applied for patent on this new UI. Thank you for the information.
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    Default Re: Spartanian II, new UI. [video added] One Ring Controls All.

    I really, REALLY (!!!) want one...or two!!


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    Evilgrin07 Re: Spartanian II, new UI. [video added] One Ring Controls All.

    Quote Originally Posted by neoseikan View Post
    Hi. guys.
    Do you think a string is necessary for it?
    Where is your favorite to add it?
    Hi Neo,

    I put a lanyard on all my small lights - it makes them easier to find in a pocket, and easier to hold without dropping them.

    Use two holes so it can still tailstand!

    Good luck with your new projects!
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