A Surefire Question

Ok this Q might sound dumb/stupid whatever, but we all know that Surefire is an American company but was it actually founded by an American Asian born and bred on the States i.e could be a Chinese American.

Just the name "Surefire" sounds like something a Chinese would think of.

https://www.surefire.com/surefire/press_center/pdf/Fact-Sheet.pdf

surefire was founded by Dr. John Matthews....

Crenshaw

Albinoni said:

Just the name "Surefire" sounds like something a Chinese would think of.

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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sure-fire

sure-fire or sure·fire (sh

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)adj. Informal Bound to be successful or perform as expected: a sure-fire solution to the problem.

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or is it because every knock off company uses a standard _____fire name to confuse people?

Surefire was the original. Then along came Ultrafire, Trustfire, Mamafire, Papafire, etc, etc, etc.

Where did you happen to come across this tidbit of information, Albinoni? Perhaps you are referring to the Newport Corporation triumvirate of John Matthews, Dennis Terry and Milton Chang (all three being classmates at Caltech), from which Laser Products branched off of, which in turn became SureFire...

Ok but isn't one of Surefires design engineers an Asian, his name is something Kim, sawe it on Youtube.

Albinoni said:

Ok but isn't one of Surefires design engineers an Asian, his name is something Kim, sawe it on Youtube.

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Paul Kim? He's a CPF member too!

Paul Kim...he is the infamous PK who roams these halls, who has a tresure chest of long lost surefire designs that dont get to production stage.

Crenshaw

Founder: Dr. John Matthews, Ph.D from CalTech in lasers, American
interesting fact: A2 is hes favorite EDC

VP of engineering: Paul Y. Kim [former New Product Development Manager (2003)], ASIAN
this guy, more pics/family album here : pk-e.com


Senior Electrical Engineer: Willie Hunt [American, but thats just a guess]

VP of Assembly Operations: Daniel Fischer [American, but thats just a guess]

Principal Scientist: (Dr.) Peter Hauk [American, but thats just a guess]

Chief Operations: Gustav Bonse [Russian descendant, but thats just a guess]
interesting fact: 6'4" 230 lb, very firm handshake

there are of course others...
Jamie Wiedeman, Federal Military Sales Manager, 20 year experience in Army Special Operations
Barry Dueck, Director Suppressor Division, Former marine, Surefire Institute founding instructor
Steve Ryan, Director of Edged Weapon's Division
et al.

I think saying Surefire is 100% American lacks diversity...its American, but influenced by global nationalities:nana:

Tread lightly, this could go bad places fast. Be nice fellow CPFers.

This is a silly question no doubt.

If you say you're Australian, do I automatically assume you're white? Or if you're black, so I refer you as African Australian (is there even such a thing?)

Albinoni said:

Just the name "Surefire" sounds like something a Chinese would think of.

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No. "Strong Light!" sounds like something the Chinese would think of.

Actually, maybe you're right.

Albinoni said:

Just the name "Surefire" sounds like something a Chinese would think of.

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Picture it: Lhasa, Spring 2008

Sergeant Xi: Colonel, those Buddhist monks are getting kind of out of hand. One dude is waving some cloth real aggressive at out tanks. Should we shoot them?

Colonel Zhang: Sure.....fire.

Albinoni said:

Ok but isn't one of Surefires design engineers an Asian, his name is something Kim, sawe it on Youtube.

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There must be a point to this discussion, but if there is it isn't obvious to me, unless it's pure xenophobia. :thinking:

America is made up of people from many different ethnic backgrounds. That's what makes America great.

gary3911 said:

No. "Strong Light!" sounds like something the Chinese would think of.

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And what about "Caution: Hot Surface" ??

To further make a pointless thread... even more pointless. Kim is typically a Korean name.

I wish I had the last 5 minutes of my life back.

A mod needs to close this thread. What does it matter where any Surefire employees came from or when they got here? Nothing productive can come from this.

Daekar said:

A mod needs to close this thread. What does it matter where any Surefire employees came from or when they got here? Nothing productive can come from this.

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no offense to the OP, but yes..

also, yes Kim generally is a korean name.

Crenshaw

Does it really matter?!? All that matters is they have great hard working performance lights....