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    Quote Originally Posted by NetMage View Post
    Too bad Google doesn't offer hosting service
    They do (pages.google.com) but not the kind what would help us... Another good service provider is Yahoo Geocities... for about $11.95 a month (3 month term) with Unlimited Bandwidth and Unlimited Space... ...Problem is that they usually do not allow shell access nor any custom installations.... they do have phpBB ... old version though....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ViReN View Post
    They do (pages.google.com) but not the kind what would help us... Another good service provider is Yahoo Geocities... for about $11.95 a month (3 month term) with Unlimited Bandwidth and Unlimited Space... ...Problem is that they usually do not allow shell access nor any custom installations.... they do have phpBB ... old version though....
    Really, unlimited Bandwidth???

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetMage View Post
    There's no such thing as unlimited anything. Bandwidth, storage, etc are all limited commodities. Some/Many hosting companies massively oversubscribe. They bet on the fact that a certain % of customers will barely use anything (say bandwidth). Then another % might be in the middle. A small % might use a ton. They can and will enforce limits if you start being a pain. Just the way it is...

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    Wow!!! I just read the OP for the first time today. I feel bad, and I take back every negative thing I said in LifeLine and elsewhere. Damn...I feel like such a complete and total idiot. I hope you can forgive me Kelly. I truly am very sorry for my foolish behavior....and for the hard time you are having with this whole situation. I would miss this place very much if all of the sudden it weren't here. I poorly, ignorantly, and unfairly misjudged you....and for that I feel very bad. Again....I will ask that you please forgive me, and...I promise to stop acting like a fool....when in fact I am completely ignorant about what is going on behind the scenes, and just what it takes to keep a board like this running.
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    http://www.site5.com/hosting/
    i use this host for my personnel websites no idea if they would be suitable but maybe worth a look.

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    I have been using GoDaddy servers since 2005. While the name and dreadful home page do not give one confidence, the service has been excellent and once everything was set up and running, I have had very little need to call them.

    I notice that the Underground is already using GoDaddy servers.

    Best of luck on the change over. It will be good to get the search working again with 50 posts per page option also working <g>.
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    Go with LayeredTechnologies, with a dedicated server or their 'GridLayer'

    Btw, I have been running a webhosting, domains and dedicated server ISP since 2006.

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    Wow. I just read the OP and that's crazy. Many thanks for dealing with such incompetance and idiocy for a small community of obsessed flashaholics. You deserve major compensation for dealing with them.

    You can never say our administrator doesn't care about the community!
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    My twelve domains have been hosted by NetSol since before VeriSign. NetSol is widely considered to be the best of the best and and comes highly recommended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglepoise View Post
    I have been using GoDaddy servers since 2005. While the name and dreadful home page do not give one confidence, the service has been excellent and once everything was set up and running, I have had very little need to call them.

    I notice that the Underground is already using GoDaddy servers.

    Best of luck on the change over. It will be good to get the search working again with 50 posts per page option also working <g>.
    +1 for godaddy. It really looks hokey, but I've had not problem one. Of course, my site is nothing like a CPF..

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    http://addaction.net/

    Addaction is an ISP that I have used for years now. Sure they have problems from time to time. My server has never gone down-but when one of thiers do-they tell everyone what's up. They communicate instantly. They offer dedicated servers. Just throwing another service out here on the floor..
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    I use a Rackspace, dedicated server and weekly backup. Rackspace servers start at about $300.00 a month. Granted its not cheap but, if you want to play with the big boys that's what it takes. Previous to that I used Digital Nation, they were $700.00 a month and later dropped to $440.00 with yearly contracts. In 11 years I have had 1 hard drive failure and about 4 service interuptions not totalling 4 hours. The harddrive failure was air couriered for restoration and back up in 12 hours.

    While these services cost some money they also guarantee you like 99.997% up time except in that rare case of a no-warning mechanical failure.

    Another benefit to a dedicated hard drive is that it is safer from viruses and random attacks.

    If you can go with a more limited service route, Server Beach is operated by Rackspace, offers the same uptime grarantees but, you will not have an account rep to call.

    These larger services operate thousands of servers for many very large companies and tend to be REAL good at what they do.

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    To be straight forward

    1-If you don't know how to cook, one shouldn't try to run a high end gourmet restaurant, and reading a couple cook books won't make up for it. Also asking customers who know how to cook to check if the oven and tools are working right is not a solution, since they lack the involvement, interest and long term vision.

    While there are certifications in process for doctors, pharmacies etc before you can run a practice, pharmacy etc, there are none in IT. Anyone can run anything and this is what you end up with... read this entire post and you might realize it (blaming it on wrong promises etc. is no excuse).

    2-Rather then do it all yourself, I'd suggest you get a good partner in tech/it who will do the tech stuff for you, in return for a share of ownership. This will prevent you from getting upset about things you have only read a few books about, while you can focus on things you enjoy more. The price of giving up control/ownership (seems you run the show) will more then compensate you for the extra energy you will gain that you can focus on more productive tasks.

    So to sum it up, get out of the kitchen, hire a cook (make him part owner), and rather spend the time putting the menu together, talk to critics, court gourmet customers, expand your brand into other areas and all the other things gourmet restaurants do and did to conquer the world (ever heard of Wolfgang Puck?). You'll find that half of a huge pie is a lot more then the entire pie at its current state.

    Also as a side benefit you will realize that your cook will provide you with a lot of information how to optimize things, run them more smoothly, make more money, get rid of headaches etc.... however you need a gourmet-chef.... lots of people mess around in this field. So be selective...

    3-Forget all the isp recommendations in this thread.... the problem is not that you need another ISP/hosting company, but the general concept of dealing with a hosting/isp company.

    Things I would be looking into if I were you (think of recipe ideas to pass on to your chef.... since those ideas won't make much sense to you I assume).

    -Get rid of server dependence by moving to a fully scalable infrastructure such as Amazon's S3 storage / computing cloud.

    -Since this is more involved to port to, you could simplify things by using on demand services such as elastra.com which run on S3 and will run your MYSQL database, except it is FULLY SCALABLE, UNLIMITED and you pay on demand (traffic and storage). Costs are affordable. Whether your database is the size of google or your current size, you'll have performance and responsiveness without dealing with servers and ram upgrades and all the technical BS. In the 21st century hosting is virtualized so why you are even talking about memory upgrades, servers, trying to hunt down performance problems is beyond me. Do you think companies like google and amazon waste their time on that, they've solved this long ago, so use their infrastructure and it is solved for you as well.

    -If you need specialists/programmers rather then paying $100 per hour here get'em in India for a fraction of the price - there are easy ways to get good ones. Even if it takes twice as long it is still more affordable. Ideally even make a contract with a company down there and outsource maintenance, however you won't have any if you run the show on S3.

    -Your problem is the hardware underlying tech platform. So just get rid off it and move to S3. Your current hosting company they all run mom and small business websites... and none of the high traffic sites, how should they know what you need.

    Anyway that's just a starter. What you are doing wrong is focusing on efficiency rather then effectiveness. Rather then trying to make this server work and spend effort energy and time on it you need a gourmet chef who will show you other ways and processes (effectiveness) where the efficiency is achieved by simply chosing the right means. You need to look for real solutions not just source for more problems.

    Talk to a real chef and he will tell you that I am right. Or find out the hard way in 5 years when you will end up there anyway....

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    Thank you for your advice NoBS....

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    heh.

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    Imagine if you used The Planet which had a huge explosion on Saturday. Pretty amazing they got back up so quickly.

    NoBS, but you are forgetting that a woman's place is in the kitchen...that's like heresy telling Greta to get out of the kitchen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuxLuthor View Post
    Imagine if you used The Planet which had a huge explosion on Saturday. Pretty amazing they got back up so quickly.

    NoBS, but you are forgetting that a woman's place is in the kitchen...that's like heresy telling Greta to get out of the kitchen.
    Some of their servers are still down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBS View Post
    To be straight forward



    While there are certifications in process for doctors, pharmacies etc before you can run a practice, pharmacy etc, there are none in IT.
    Please see this list for a list of IT certifications...you can find many others by using Google and searching on the term IT certification.

    Note also that Microsoft offers certifications, as do many others.

    It's true that you don't need a certification to run an IT business, but certifications DO exist.

    Greta/Sasha, you're doing a great job. Please accept my thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoBS View Post
    ...Your current hosting company they all run mom and small business websites... and none of the high traffic sites, how should they know what you need...
    +1. Hey, CPF is big time . Look at Chowhound or CooksIllustrated: they do not have these sorts of problems with their BB's, and they are just as heavily used as CPF. Granted, they are attached to a for-profit company, and not just hobbyists. Still, consider using a BIG (fortune 500) IT company for hosting. In my experience, the big boys are not really that much more expensive than small timers when it comes to technology: they have a plan to suit all sizes and pocketbooks. I am a put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is person, so I have just subscribed to CPF via paypal.

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    NoBS - interesting info. If the hosting company were running Blade Servers this would also allow dynamic server and DB expansion as well, correct?

    It seems the current ISP is stuck in the mode of dedicating a single server to a customer, which is very old school. I wonder why they have not moved to server virtualization or clustering.
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    Blades, virtualization, grid computing, etc... Those items are not required to run a reliable website high-traffic website. There are many, many ways to skin a cat. Sure...virtualization provides some nice features, but that's nothing new. Virtualization has been around since the 60's. Blades can be less cost-effective than running non-blade servers. Many of the *BIG* websites out there don't use 'em or use them in a limited fashion. The ability to scale quickly and efficiently has more to do with the recipe than the ingredients.

    Regarding the current server... IPower isn't selling any new dedicated servers and they aren't upgrading any old ones. What has changed is CPFMP has moved off the server at IPower and over to GoDaddy.

    Since I haven't been around CPF much lately to notice for myself... Has performance and/or reliability improved? Taking a quick peek at the server's health I would assume yes.

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    Hello Chris - lately there have been a lot of outages and very slow performances still.

    Thanks to you and Greta for working on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LED-holic View Post
    Hello Chris - lately there have been a lot of outages and very slow performances still.
    Here on CPF- yes, but CPFMP has been SUPER FAST since the switch to GoDaddy. I haven't noticed any problems at all with CPFMP since the switch.

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    Gimpy00Wang - Sorry but your post is rather useless.

    Led-Holic - no the main issue is not blade server, or ram or godaddy vs. ipower. If you are a customer and you order something you care about the result and not how this result is created. Whether they create the perfect pizza in a wood oven, or in a star trek replicator who cares.

    So what you want is not hardware. Hardware is a tool. As a customer you don't want hardware you want a service... database performance/web/application performance and storage capacity. So as a result if this is what you want, this is what you look for and get - even though everyone will try to sell you the tool, you need to remove complexity and get the service.

    So you purchase a service, in this case database performance that scales independently - ideally secured with Service Level Agreements or verified with statistics (uptime etc). How they deliver this service and achieve this service level is their problem.

    So you eliminate the issue of picking the right hardware, ram, servers, platform, ISP, and just buy exactly what you want. Pricing already is more affordable then one might think for these services (through Amazon S3), however with Google, IBM and Salesforce entering the same market in a year or two these services will be almost free in the future.

    And to answer your question, Blade Servers won't do the job. To make a database scalable (any database) and with top performance at any point in time, you need a variety of services, deployment and management resources which are beyond the capabilities of your regular hosting company - Amazon, Google, IBM, Salesforce have solved it.. so go with them.

    And besides you don't just want performance and scalability you also need security against theft, fire, water, power outage, brownouts - backups etc.

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    Gimpy00Wang - Sorry but your post is rather useless.
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    Chris, in my experience, the last couple of months have been much better than Jan/Feb/Mar at CPF. It has been quite a few weeks since I lost a post....and I remember previously starting to compose all my posts in Note Tab Pro because of the downtime. So, thanks for what is being done!

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    Been working nice for a couple weeks now....
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    Sasha!

    It's been so long you changed your name.

    I asked a friend of mine who runs a hosting company to take a quick look at this thread. Here is his response.

    Interesting on candlepowerforums. I'd be happy to try to help them,
    though it strikes me that NoBS has the right idea. Things like web BBSs
    are simple until they get big. Then they get very difficult. Having a
    technology expert on board who knows how to navigate technology market
    (ie: what to look at when) is a huge thing at that point.

    Suggestions like using S3 are interesting. As someone who's been
    setting up S3 systems, I've gotta say that it's far from ready for
    non-pro-geeks. But if they wanted to go with pro geeks to help them,
    it's probably a good option. If you can figure out how to store a
    database without having persistent storage (which is in fact solvable)
    it's a good way to go if you want to scale. But there's design issues,
    not the least of which is that the concept lends itself to things that
    are easily clusterable (ie: one program runs across several boxes). So
    you've got to architect your solution to do that somehow.


    I'd like to find out what their current stats are for bandwidth, CPU
    usage, etc... and look at their current database and logs for a while to
    try to figure out what direction to go. My guess is they've been getting
    low end products (even at rackspace.com) and they aren't tuned well or
    maintained well. Probably no one has bothered to tune the web and
    database servers for this usage, and PHP is probably being launched in a
    memory-hungry way.

    ...but one thing that bothers me is that my instincts say that a BBS
    with 2.5 million posts and 60k users should not need that much power --
    even as much as they've been using. Hell -- I ran the JPL photojournal
    (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov) on four linux boxes of about half the
    power of the one they're using, and slashdotters TRIED to crash it and
    failed during the mars rover landings. I'm wondering if vBulletin is
    part of the problem -- that it just doesn't scale properly.

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    I really like this forum and it has some very helpful members. But it goes offline/inaccessible more time in a month that most forums do in a year!

    Is it hosted by a home webserver or something? If it is hosted by a professional company then they deserve to be shot!

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    The first post of this thread has the answer to your question.

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