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    Default Ra Twisty (HDS Systems) - Part 2

    a RA Twisty compared to an EDC U85:

    • Has no inductor whine
    • Doesn't get hot
    • Is 1/4 inch taller
    • No belt clip
    • If low turns on at 12:00 med starts @ 2:30 and high is 7:00 and stops
    • Requires two hands to rotate


    Click images for larger view (Twisty on right in Beamshot):






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    Quote Originally Posted by fleegs View Post
    What I observed.

    1. It appears that the twisty uses the body of the light for current flow which I may not like if dirty threads impact the light (e.g., flickering)

    2. When using in the mouth it is a little front heavy (which I think is due to using SS bezel)

    3. The switching between low and medium sometimes is a little flaky (i.e., twist travel not always the same). I may be crazy. Tested again I think I am.

    4. My medium setting seems bright. I would be amazed if I could get 8hrs runtime.

    5. What is the minumum runtime on low? Not stated in manual and can't find it on their website.


    All the good as been said already.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I have some questions about the programming mode (apologies if they have been asked before):

    1) When you program in different levels, are the settings stored in non-volatile flash memory? i.e. will the programmed settings remain indefinitely without a battery installed?

    2) Does the flashlight light dimly for 2 seconds (reset mode) every time a new battery is installed and the light is without power for more than 60s?

    3) Does the light consume power in OFF mode?

    Thanks in advance
    Last edited by monkeyboy; 06-14-2008 at 06:21 AM.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Removed pics.
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    couldnt find the answer to this, would appreciate some help


    re: http://www.ralights.com/?id=TwistyCustomize

    so what are the default levels for a Tw100? table is confusing.

    my max lumens is 100, so i guess i use the top table? the default for the Tw100 is 100 lumens, 17 and 0.3 but only 100 matches in the table (level 22). is the 17 lumens level 17 (which is actually 18 lumens)? is the 0.3 lumens level 5 (which is actually 0.28 lumens)? basically im trying to match the default lumens and levels to see if i want to change them.

    thanks for anyones help

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    You have the right table the numbers are rounded.
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    MonkeyBoy,

    All setting changes are retained indefinitely. The reset takes place every time the light is without power for 60 seconds. The flashlight consumes so little power when off that the battery self-discharge rate has a greater effect on battery life.

    HoopleHead,

    In the first table (contains 100 lumens), medium is level 17 and low is level 6. In the second table (contains 120 lumens), medium is level 16 and low is level 5.

    By the way, the customization page was just updated and hopefully it will be less confusing. When the tables get reformatted, the medium and low settings will be highlighted to make it clearer.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Henry I got my HDS-120 from BS today. I like it very mach. Shape, design, brightness; everything perfect. Just one little concern: reflector has few ugly scratches, and couple fingerprints, it looks like reflector was pressed inside with thumb or something. I know it is not affect light beam, it just buzzer me a bit, when I look in face of my light. I never have this problem this other HDS lights. Can it be replaced? Thanks for you help.

    Maybe I am over reacting?

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I also received my Ra-120-TW today from BS and think that they accidentally shipped me a Ra-140-TW by mistake. LOL!!!!!! Just kidding but I am really impressed with the beam and tint on this baby!!!! Thanks Henry!!!!!! I am now have a dilemma as to whether to EDC my Ra-120 or my Ra-85-TR which I also love. On a side note I noticed that BS shipped the usual excellent 4 cell holder clip but instead of having BS batteries, it had Varta Professional cells in it. I have never seen or heard of these cells but they look pretty cool and are made in Japan.

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    Russki,

    Please contact customer support so they can resolve your problem.

    Henry.
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Recieved extra O-rings, TR70 is back on edc duty! Thx again Henry!

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    Henry, reflector received and successfully replaced.
    Thanks for fast response and shipping.
    Thumbs up for man, making great product, and standing behind it for customer.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2




    Quote Originally Posted by HDS Systems View Post
    All lights are now being marked on the interior using the following color code:

    85 lumens: red
    100 lumens: yellow
    120 lumens: green

    As there are no exterior markings on the flashlight to indicate the output, this will allow anyone to verify the light's calibration setting.
    Henry.
    Shows 120 marking.


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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I'm confused. Mine is green in side too. I also have red at the first stage. 120Tr. Sn 0184. Any help? thanks
    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrencher View Post
    I'm confused. Mine is green in side too. I also have red at the first stage. 120Tr. Sn 0184. Any help? thanks
    Jeff
    That is funny? Should be yellow, right? You ordered the 100Tr correct? Maybe green really means the LED is an exceptional 85(100) or an exceptional 100(120).


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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I am pretty sure that you are looking at the circuit board and they are all green. I did not see any additional marks in the picture that would indicate what model the light is.
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I think that blotch of brighter green on the left is the mark...
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by :)> View Post
    I am pretty sure that you are looking at the circuit board and they are all green. I did not see any additional marks in the picture that would indicate what model the light is.

    It's outlined, now.
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Drywolf View Post
    It's outlined, now.
    Aha!

    Thank you!
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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I will never get rid of my twisty's but i see the resale of theses being very confusing
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrencher View Post
    I'm confused. Mine is green in side too. I also have red at the first stage. 120Tr. Sn 0184. Any help? thanks
    Jeff
    What does the white sticker on the Zip-loc bag say? I know that I ordered from batterystation, and there was a white sticker on the bag that states the model. The PCB in my 85tr is not color coded.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2



    My bag for the 120tw had no marking?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drywolf View Post
    My bag for the 120tw had no marking?

    hm... well... that does make things a little more confusing..

    Anybody else get a white sticker on the bag/color coding on the PCB?..Either, neither or Both?

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo Morocioli View Post
    hm... well... that does make things a little more confusing..

    Anybody else get a white sticker on the bag/color coding on the PCB?..Either, neither or Both?

    both from uniquetitanium.......never noticed that color splotch till now though
    i happen to like my flashlights twisted, not clicked

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricker View Post
    both from uniquetitanium.......never noticed that color splotch till now though
    Ah!... Pictures?
    Is the Splotch color correct as per Henry's post?
    Last edited by Enzo Morocioli; 06-22-2008 at 12:49 AM.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2



    as to henry's post
    i happen to like my flashlights twisted, not clicked

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I think it depends on the serial. My 100-Tr #0198 has no markings on the PCB, but the plastic bag had a round red sticker with "100" written on it.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    I think your right about the s/n. My bag had a red sticker with 100 written on it.

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    Default Re: Ra Twisty part 2

    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo Morocioli View Post
    Both?
    Yes. Both on serial #0183
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    Quote Originally Posted by paxxus View Post
    I think it depends on the serial. My 100-Tr #0198 has no markings on the PCB, but the plastic bag had a round red sticker with "100" written on it.
    I think serials will have less to do with it as time goes on...

    Henry said, "Although we put effort into shipping early serial numbers in sequence, as the serial numbers get larger, there is less incentive to keep the bezels sorted - keeping the lights going out in strict serial number order slows the production process considerably. However, we try to ship all serial numbers from earlier batches before shipping serial numbers from later batches."

    Which means to me (I reserve the right to be wrong) that because the bezels are not model specific to the electronics of the light, it becomes "luck of the draw" for those random Twisties with better than average LED performance to also have lower serials AND color coding.

    I think the color coding designations took a few torches to become formalized as part of production; we don't know if HDS Systems were the ones who put the sticker on the bags, or if they just put the splotch on the PCB and left the packaging sticker to the vendor..

    In time we should know better, because as Thermal Guy said - It could lead to confusion with some people who try to sell or buy Twisties from one another in the future...

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