10W HID Mag mod

Britelumens · Aug 20, 2008

Hi,

A Mag sleeper mod

-Welch Allyn 10W HID bulb ( non envelope )
-Welch Allyn 10W ballast
-Modified FM 2 inch deep SMO reflector
-Premium FM 3 x 17670 battery holder
-UCL lens
-Tri-bored host
-Host approximately 1.5D

CONTROL SHOTS

BEAMSHOT @ app 130 meters (426 ft) grass patch with half skyline

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

Packhorse · Aug 20, 2008

How do you feel this compares against P7?

Britelumens · Aug 21, 2008

Packhorse said:
How do you feel this compares against P7?

Hi Packhorse,

I don't thing they can be compare as both are really different light in all as they produces different beam type. The P7 is really a great emitter for the "everyday" use as they offer good average throw with very usable flood.

As for the HID bulb, nothing out there can beat its intense beam throw if you are looking into that area.

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

lctorana · Aug 21, 2008

That is magnificent. Well done.

Britelumens · Aug 26, 2008

It up for sale at B/S/T

White_Shadow · Aug 26, 2008

where can i get the parts to do this? also what about cost? i am interested in doing this mod.

Britelumens · Aug 26, 2008

White_Shadow said:
where can i get the parts to do this? also what about cost? i am interested in doing this mod.

Hi White_Shadow,

You can get them from the Welch Allyn website.

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

vestureofblood · Aug 26, 2008

Thanks for posting this light Britelumens. Its all about throw form me. I was just sitting here thinking of new ways to squeeze a little more out of my lights, and this may just do the trick. What is your runtime with this light? And could you maybe post a direct link for the bulb and balast. I'm having a bit of trouble navigating the WA website. Thanks.

Flashanator · Aug 27, 2008

who can I get on CPF to make me a 10w HID Mag? Is that the limit? Is there higher wattage HID mags?

Britelumens · Aug 27, 2008

Flashanator 500mW said:
who can I get on CPF to make me a 10w HID Mag? Is that the limit? Is there higher wattage HID mags?

Hi Flashanator,

It's up for sale at B/S/T

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

Flashanator · Aug 27, 2008

I just saw,:devil: But I beat before I have the money ready it will be sold.:mecry:

BTW, what colour temp is it?

Der Wichtel · Aug 27, 2008

looks cool.
How many lumens does the bulb have

SafetyBob · Aug 28, 2008

Here is a link to the 10W bulb and stuff from WA website:

http://www.walamps.com/lpd/files/datasheets/MC3705RevB_10watt.pdf

If you buy online from them looks like $79.00 for the ballast and $129.00 for an MR11 bulb with 6 deg.

However, after so looking around, many bike riders and divers use this WA system. Batteryspace.com has a replacement bulb and ballast which I believe is the WA stuff. It says it is for a Trail-Tech13W MR11 Eclipse HID. Here is the link.

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2689

http://www.batteryspace.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2204

Bob E.

vestureofblood · Aug 28, 2008

Thanks Bob,
Aslo way to go finding the alternative source. This whole "HID" setup is still a bit unfamiliar to me, I think I am getting the idea now though. Seeing the parts always seems to help me get a feel for it. I may go down to the electrical supply store in town and see what they have to offer for bulbs and parts.

Britelumens. Do you have an educated guss how many lumens this light is? Also I would like to know what your runtime is?

vcw · Aug 28, 2008

He said it's approximately 40 minutes.

BVH · Aug 28, 2008

WA 10 Watt systems are always about 500 bulb Lumens. If you choose to overdrive it a bit (non-regulated ballast) you might get another 100 Lumens.

Britelumens · Aug 29, 2008

vestureofblood said:
Thanks Bob,
Aslo way to go finding the alternative source. This whole "HID" setup is still a bit unfamiliar to me, I think I am getting the idea now though. Seeing the parts always seems to help me get a feel for it. I may go down to the electrical supply store in town and see what they have to offer for bulbs and parts.

Britelumens. Do you have an educated guss how many lumens this light is? Also I would like to know what your runtime is?

Hi vestureofblood,

Sorry for the late reply. Yes, sometime it takes a little patient to navigate Welch Allyn site due to their extensive products.

vcw said:
He said it's approximately 40 minutes.

BVH said:
WA 10 Watt systems are always about 500 bulb Lumens. If you choose to overdrive it a bit (non-regulated ballast) you might get another 100 Lumens.

Thank you guys! :thumbsup:

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

GSteg · Aug 29, 2008

So even though the P7s are rated for higher lumens, the tighter beam of the HIDs enables it to throw further than the P7s? I was going to do a tri-P7 setup, but now this HID stuff has got me curious.

Britelumens · Aug 29, 2008

GSteg said:
So even though the P7s are rated for higher lumens, the tighter beam of the HIDs enables it to throw further than the P7s? I was going to do a tri-P7 setup, but now this HID stuff has got me curious.

Hi GSteg,

Nothing beat a HID bulb in term of throw if you compare it without any enhancement to light other light source.

With regards,
Jo @ Britelumens

SafetyBob · Aug 30, 2008

So what part number was the bulb you used. It looks beautiful in that FM reflector. I couldn't makes heads or tails at the WA website. A couple others had good info (particularly the Dive forums), but you are right, the WA website is miserable to surf.....

Bob E.

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