Help me pick a flashlight please

Enron Exec

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I was down looking in the manufactures and dealers corner in the market place. There are so many good choices its almost dizzying!

What im looking for is something under $150 (kinda flexible)

  1. takes either 1 or 2 CR123A batteries, prefer 2 for longer operation.
  2. >200 lumens.
  3. water proof, shock proof, chemical proof.
  4. must be able to accept a pressure remote switch and can be mounted to an AR.

Thanks guys! :party:
 

Gunner12

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What chemicals?

What beam pattern and runtime would you like?

With those you still have quite a few options. The Surefire 6P, C2, M2 with a pressure switch and a LED module(P60 type, check this thread) could work for you. An Olight T20(normal, military, or tactical) with a pressure switch could work for you. The are also more 6P type lights that you can choose from too.

I'd say the P60 drop-in options like the Surefire C2 would be a good choice.

:welcome:
 

blinder switch

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I was down looking in the manufactures and dealers corner in the market place. There are so many good choices its almost dizzying!

What im looking for is something under $150 (kinda flexible)

  1. takes either 1 or 2 CR123A batteries, prefer 2 for longer operation.
  2. >200 lumens.
  3. water proof, shock proof, chemical proof.
  4. must be able to accept a pressure remote switch and can be mounted to an AR.
Thanks guys! :party:

Here is what I have on 2 of my 3 Bushmaster AR 15 carbines. This light is damn good as far as I am concerned, and the mount is top notch also.

I don't really know of any lights that would meet your exacting requirments. Good Luck!
e2dllt606.jpg
 

Chrontius

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I was down looking in the manufactures and dealers corner in the market place. There are so many good choices its almost dizzying!

What im looking for is something under $150 (kinda flexible)

  1. takes either 1 or 2 CR123A batteries, prefer 2 for longer operation.
  2. >200 lumens.
  3. water proof, shock proof, chemical proof.
  4. must be able to accept a pressure remote switch and can be mounted to an AR.

Thanks guys! :party:


This is what Carrot was talking about. I've taken the liberty of filling in everything you've posted (which was unusually good for a new member!), but this makes it real easy for us to pick something just perfect for you.

Recommend a Flashlight Checklist:
(Don't worry about all the questions, just the ones you feel strongly about!)

Short Essay Question: What do you intend to use this light for?








0) What Region/Country/State will the light be purchased in?

____I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.
____I am in North America. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in South America. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Europe. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in the Middle East. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Africa. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Asia, Japan or Micronesia. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Australia. More precisely I am in _______________.


1) Price Range: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____I only want to pay $1-10.
____I can spend $15-30.
____I could spend $40-60.
____I am willing to spend $80-$120.

$150

____I have no limit!

2) Format:

_X_I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a portable spotlight.

3) Length:

____I don't care.
____1-2 inches. (Keychain sized)
____2-4 inches. (Pocket carry)
____4-9 inches. (Holster carry)

4) Width:

____I don't care.
____I prefer a long narrow light.
____I prefer a short wide light.

5) What batteries do you want to use? Alkaline batteries are easier to find and less expensive but don't pack as much stored energy and are don't work well in cold temperatures. Lithium batteries have long shelf life (10+ years, great for stored emergency lights) and are not as affected by cold but must be kept dry and are more expensive. Rechargeable start expensive, but if used frequently pay off quickly.

____I want common Alkaline batteries. (AA, AAA, C, D)
_X_I want lithium batteries. (coin cells, CR123, AAA, AA...)
____I want a rechargeable system. (an investment, but best for everyday use)

6) How much light do you want? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible). Select all that apply.

____I want to read a map, or find a light switch, in a dark room. (5-10 lumens)
____I want to walk around a generally paved area. (15-20 lumens)
____I want to walk unpaved trails. (40 lumens)
____I want to do Caving or Search & Rescue operations. (60+ lumens)
_X_I want to light an entire campground or dazzle an intruder. (100+ lumens)
>200 specifically

7) Throw vs Flood: Which do you prefer, lights that flood an area with a wide beam, or lights that "throw" with a tightly focused beam? Place an "X" on the line below.

Throw (distance)----------------------|----------------------Flood/close-up

8) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims (like some LED lights). but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries.

____20 min. (I want the brightest light for brief periods)
____60-240 min. (1-2 hours)
____240-360 min. (4-6 hours)
____360+ min. (More than 6 hours)

9) Durability: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light.)
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood.)
____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box.)
_X_Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Self-defense, Survival.)

8) Switch Type:

____I don't care.
____I want a sliding switch. (Stays on until slid back.)
____I want a "clickie" switch. (Stays on until pressed again.)
____I want a momentary switch. (Only stays on while held down.)

9) Switch Location:

____I don't care.
____I want a push or sliding switch on the body near the head.
____I want a push switch on the back end of the body.
____I want a rotating head switch.
____I want a rotating end-cap switch.
_X_I want a remote control.

10) Operational Modes: Check all that apply.

____A simple on-off is fine for me.
____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
____I want multiple light levels. (some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a strobe mode. (blinks to show location.)
____I want a tactical strobe. (Flashes rapidly to disorient an opponent.)

11) Is it important whether the body is metal or plastic/composite?

____I don't care.
____I want a metal-bodied light.
____I want a plastic/composite light.

12) Special Needs: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Circle any below or write in your own comment(s).

____Red (night vision preserving) filter
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________)
_X_Waterproof – how deep: _____________
____Non-reflective/dark finish (stealthy/hard to find)
____Polished silver or brightly colored finish (for easy locating)
_X_Corrosion resistant or hard-anodized finish
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Built-in second (or spare) lamp or filament
____Belt/Jacket clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Kobuton/self defense features
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments


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Enron Exec

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Sorry for the late response guys and thank you all for all the great support! :twothumbs

This is what Carrot was talking about. I've taken the liberty of filling in everything you've posted (which was unusually good for a new member!), but this makes it real easy for us to pick something just perfect for you.

Recommend a Flashlight Checklist:
(Don't worry about all the questions, just the ones you feel strongly about!)

Short Essay Question: What do you intend to use this light for?








0) What Region/Country/State will the light be purchased in?

_X__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.
_X__I am in North America. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in South America. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Europe. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in the Middle East. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Africa. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Asia, Japan or Micronesia. More precisely I am in _______________.
____I am in Australia. More precisely I am in _______________.


1) Price Range: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :)

____I only want to pay $1-10.
____I can spend $15-30.
____I could spend $40-60.
____I am willing to spend $80-$120.

$150

____I have no limit!

2) Format:

_X_I want a flashlight.
____I want a headlamp.
____I want a lantern.
____I want a portable spotlight.

3) Length:

__X_I don't care.
____1-2 inches. (Keychain sized)
____2-4 inches. (Pocket carry)
____4-9 inches. (Holster carry)

4) Width:

____I don't care.
__X_I prefer a long narrow light.
____I prefer a short wide light.

5) What batteries do you want to use? Alkaline batteries are easier to find and less expensive but don't pack as much stored energy and are don't work well in cold temperatures. Lithium batteries have long shelf life (10+ years, great for stored emergency lights) and are not as affected by cold but must be kept dry and are more expensive. Rechargeable start expensive, but if used frequently pay off quickly.

____I want common Alkaline batteries. (AA, AAA, C, D)
_X_I want lithium batteries. (coin cells, CR123, AAA, AA...)
____I want a rechargeable system. (an investment, but best for everyday use)

6) How much light do you want? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible). Select all that apply.

____I want to read a map, or find a light switch, in a dark room. (5-10 lumens)
____I want to walk around a generally paved area. (15-20 lumens)
____I want to walk unpaved trails. (40 lumens)
____I want to do Caving or Search & Rescue operations. (60+ lumens)
_X_I want to light an entire campground or dazzle an intruder. (100+ lumens)
>200 specifically

7) Throw vs Flood: Which do you prefer, lights that flood an area with a wide beam, or lights that "throw" with a tightly focused beam? Place an "X" on the line below.

Throw (distance)---------X--------------------------------Flood/close-up

8) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims (like some LED lights). but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries.

____20 min. (I want the brightest light for brief periods)
__X_60-240 min. (1-2 hours)
____240-360 min. (4-6 hours)
____360+ min. (More than 6 hours)

9) Durability: Generally the old phrase "you get what you pay for" is very accurate for flashlights.

____Not Important (A "night-stand" light.)
____Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood.)
____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box.)
_X_Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Self-defense, Survival.)

8) Switch Type:

____I don't care.
____I want a sliding switch. (Stays on until slid back.)
_X__I want a "clickie" switch. (Stays on until pressed again.)
____I want a momentary switch. (Only stays on while held down.)

9) Switch Location:

____I don't care.
____I want a push or sliding switch on the body near the head.
____I want a push switch on the back end of the body.
____I want a rotating head switch.
____I want a rotating end-cap switch.
_X_I want a remote control.

10) Operational Modes: Check all that apply.

____A simple on-off is fine for me.
__X_I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
__X_I want multiple light levels. (some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
____I want a strobe mode. (blinks to show location.)
__X_I want a tactical strobe. (Flashes rapidly to disorient an opponent.)

11) Is it important whether the body is metal or plastic/composite?

_X__I don't care.
____I want a metal-bodied light.
____I want a plastic/composite light.

12) Special Needs: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Circle any below or write in your own comment(s).

____Red (night vision preserving) filter
____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________)
_X_Waterproof – how deep: _______2 METERS______
____Non-reflective/dark finish (stealthy/hard to find)
____Polished silver or brightly colored finish (for easy locating)
_X_Corrosion resistant or hard-anodized finish
____"Hybrid" light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
____Built-in second (or spare) lamp or filament
____Belt/Jacket clip
____Holster
____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
____Kobuton/self defense features
____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments


****************************
 

superflytnt

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Here is what I have on 2 of my 3 Bushmaster AR 15 carbines. This light is damn good as far as I am concerned, and the mount is top notch also.

I don't really know of any lights that would meet your exacting requirments. Good Luck!
e2dllt606.jpg




I've heard that the dual-level E-series (E2DL in particular) tend to switch modes with firearm recoil. Have you ever had this happen with that setup? The 5.56/.223 round has light recoil so it may not be a problem there but it'd kind of suck to all of a sudden drop from 120 to 5 lumens while on a target..................
 

aussiebob

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I've heard that the dual-level E-series (E2DL in particular) tend to switch modes with firearm recoil. Have you ever had this happen with that setup? The 5.56/.223 round has light recoil so it may not be a problem there but it'd kind of suck to all of a sudden drop from 120 to 5 lumens while on a target..................

I have the dual mode and find it great when i want to swich levels i just tap the back of the light and it switches (no need to click the switch). It doesnt take much of a tap, less than it would take on a gun recoil im guessing.
Theres always the single level.

:)
 
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