[Computer security] Update your Adobe Flash Player. All browsers, all OSes.

mechBgon

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If your computer has Adobe Flash Player installed, update to Adobe Flash Player 10 to eliminate major security issues with 9.0.124 and prior versions. Adobe's download page for Linux, Mac and Windows versions. Most people have Flash Player, so if you're not sure, you probably do.


I'd also encourage home users of Windows to run the Secunia Personal Software Inspector to find and eliminate vulnerabilities in stuff like QuickTime, RealPlayer, WinAmp, Adobe Reader and so on. This matters, so do it :)

Secunia_PSI.png


Also, hit the Microsoft Update site a couple times to make sure that (1) you actually have the Microsoft Update engine (it's more comprehensive than the stock Windows Update engine), and (2) you've got all the October updates that came out yesterday.


For the Mac OS X crew, Apple recently released a major bundle of patches for OS X, so make sure your Mac is up-to-date on its patching too :) Also check for security updates to your preferred web browser and other installed software, such as Adobe Flash Player, Adobe Reader, etc.
 
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Wonder why it says I have four different versions of java?

Bastids make you manually uninstall previous versions. I stumbled upon what seems like a very cool uninstaller called Revo Uninstaller. MechBgon, what do you think? I defer to you in such matters!

Larry
 

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Wonder why it says I have four different versions of java?

Yeah, the Sun Java Runtime installer doesn't remove the old versions when you install a new one*. See if you can uninstall the old versions via the usual Add/Remove Programs found in Control Panel.

edit: regarding the uninstaller mentioned above, I'm kinda paranoid about downloading and running utilities from sources I've never heard of, out of concern they might turn out to be Trojan Horses or backdoored software. So I would go with the manual Add/Remove Programs method if at all possible :tinfoil:

Big picture: Sun's Java is one of the more popular things to try to exploit (typically by a scripted attack in a malicious or hacked website), along with Adobe Reader, QuickTime, and Flash Player. Many people have no actual need for Java at all. So you might consider uninstalling all versions of Sun Java completely, and just wait until you see an actual need for it (for a concrete example, the US Government's official time page uses a Java applet to generate a time display).

Up-to-date Sun Java downloads can be found for all platforms (Linux, Mac and Windows) at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp for those who need to get the latest version. To add Java capabilities to a home computer, what you'd be after is the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).

*It's worth noting that since JRE 1.5.06 (I think), the bad guys can no longer call up older versions of Java Runtime by request, even if they are still present on the system. Up until then, they could.
 
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I use Revo Uninstaller and would recommend it. Also use Secunia. My system comes out pretty secure except for Macromedia Flash which is installed in more than one place for different programs. I can't ever seem to get rid of it everywhere so I always get back a report that it is still vulnerable. Also reluctant to go whole hog and remove as it may disable some functionality in programs I depend on (Dreamweaver 8 specifically).
 

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With Secunia, it says I have a lot of office products not up to date? I thought the windows update would take care of that automatically, no?

Also I hope using end of life programs is not dangerous. I have a few of those. I use an old version of ACDsee version 2.1 strictly for viewing pictures, reason being it opens up an an instant. All the newer graphic programs are so loaded with fluff that they all have to load a bunch of crap before opening. Maybe fine for editing purposes but not for just viewing pictures.
 
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Yeah, the Sun Java Runtime installer doesn't remove the old versions when you install a new one*. See if you can uninstall the old versions via the usual Add/Remove Programs found in Control Panel.

edit: regarding the uninstaller mentioned above, I'm kinda paranoid about downloading and running utilities from sources I've never heard of, out of concern they might turn out to be Trojan Horses or backdoored software. So I would go with the manual Add/Remove Programs method if at all possible :tinfoil:

Big picture: Sun's Java is one of the more popular things to try to exploit (typically by a scripted attack in a malicious or hacked website), along with Adobe Reader, QuickTime, and Flash Player. Many people have no actual need for Java at all. So you might consider uninstalling all versions of Sun Java completely, and just wait until you see an actual need for it (for a concrete example, the US Government's official time page uses a Java applet to generate a time display).

Up-to-date Sun Java downloads can be found for all platforms (Linux, Mac and Windows) at http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp for those who need to get the latest version. To add Java capabilities to a home computer, what you'd be after is the Java Runtime Environment (JRE).

*It's worth noting that since JRE 1.5.06 (I think), the bad guys can no longer call up older versions of Java Runtime by request, even if they are still present on the system. Up until then, they could.

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Most interested in how this effects the new Firefox 3.1 beta.
I'v been using it since last night and the speed increase is quite noticeable!
Much of the speed gains are from how Java is processed/not processed....hmmm

edit: Manual Flash settings(you may delete and disable)~ http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html
 
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With Secunia, it says I have a lot of office products not up to date? I thought the windows update would take care of that automatically, no?

This is one reason I suggested upgrading from Windows Update to Microsoft Update. It gets you updates for Office and Works software, as well as other Microsoft software that doesn't come with Windows itself. To get the Microsoft Update engine, hit http://update.microsoft.com and that'll get you started.

Note that if you have Office service packs to install, there'll be some additional patches to get after you're up to the latest Service Pack, so keep going back until it comes up clean. After that, Automatic Updates should keep you topped off :)

Also I hope using end of life programs is not dangerous. I have a few of those.

It could be dangerous if there are exploitable weaknesses in the EOL software. For example, I have a couple licenses for WinZip 9. There are exploitable vulnerabilities in WinZip 9, and it's EOL. The bad guys do attempt to exploit it using scripted attacks. I switched to something else.

If you're interested in advanced countermeasures against exploits (known and unknown), setting up a non-Admin user account and optionally a Software Restriction Policy are great security enhancements if they'll work for your needs :) On non-Windows systems, using a low-privilege user account for daily-driver stuff is similarly beneficial.

Much of the speed gains [in FireFox 3.1] are from how Java is processed/not processed....hmmm

Java, or JavaScript? They're different, and you don't need Java in order to use JavaScript. Not many web pages actually use Java.
 
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I use an old version of ACDsee version 2.1 strictly for viewing pictures, reason being it opens up an an instant. All the newer graphic programs are so loaded with fluff that they all have to load a bunch of crap before opening. Maybe fine for editing purposes but not for just viewing pictures.

I'm using ACDsee ver 2.42. It seemed to work best with win2k and supports .tif also (some versions don't). You can try various versions here:

http://www.oldversion.com/

Hmmm.. probably doesn't open as fast though, looks like v2.1 is pretty small.

ACDSee 2.1 (0.6 MB)
ACDSee 2.22 (0.9 MB)
ACDSee 2.4 (1.9 MB)
ACDSee 2.42 (1.9 MB)
ACDSee 2.43 (1.6 MB)

ACDSee 8.0 (12.1 MB)
ACDSee 8.1 (24.2 MB) a little bloat here. ;)
 
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MechBgon, are you a believer in anti-bot programs such as Norton Anti-bot? (anyone else can comment as well)

Incidentally I did all the critical office patches and Secunia still says I have six office insecurities.
 

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MechBgon, are you a believer in anti-bot programs such as Norton Anti-bot? (anyone else can comment as well)

Not really, no. It's like expecting an outbound firewall to stop malware. If malware is already resident on the system, all bets are off. Prevention is the name of the game, IMO.

This doesn't apply to all browsers or OSs. Only the those that are supported.

What I meant is that if you have Adobe Flash Player installed, you should update, regardless of what browser(s) and OS you use. If you don't have Flash Player because your platform isn't supported, then that's one less piece of software you have to maintain :twothumbs
 
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What I meant is that if you have Adobe Flash Player installed, you should update, regardless of what browser(s) and OS you use. If you don't have Flash Player because your platform isn't supported, then that's one less piece of software you have to maintain :twothumbs

I do have Adobe Flash Player installed. It looks like Adobe dropped support for a number of OSs in their latest version, including Win98SE, unfortunately, so I can't update.
 

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I do have Adobe Flash Player installed. It looks like Adobe dropped support for a number of OSs in their latest version, including Win98SE, unfortunately, so I can't update.

Oh, I see. As you probably know, Win98 SE itself no longer gets security updates, so if computer security is something you want, maybe see about upgrading to at least Windows 2000, which is a major step forward in security and will be supported through 2011. Or another OS of your choice. Otherwise, the threat of clickjacking, malvertisement exploits and clipboard hijacks via Adobe Flash Player will just be the tip of your insecurity iceberg :ohgeez:

I'd consider having a Win98 box around to run old, old games on, but I wouldn't let it out onto the Internet at this point.
 
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Thank you mechBgon. I ran the Adobe Flash update and ran the Secunia PSI.

my Apple Quick Time and Maromedia Flash Player are at EOL. Are they needed? I can't find them on my Remove Programs list. Do you have any advice on what to do?
 

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Thank you mechBgon. I ran the Adobe Flash update and ran the Secunia PSI.

my Apple Quick Time and Maromedia Flash Player are at EOL. Are they needed? I can't find them on my Remove Programs list. Do you have any advice on what to do?

Glad to help :) Nope, you don't need the obsolete versions, just the latest ones.

To fix your EOL Flash Player, you could try the Adobe Flash Player uninstaller which is listed near the top of this page.

Afterwards, run the Secunia checkup to see if you've successfully gotten rid of the EOL Flash Player version that it was complaining about. Once that's done, you can install the latest version of Flash Player and you're all set :)

Note: on Windows, you could have two Flash Players installed: one for Internet Explorer, one for FireFox/Mozilla/Netscape/Opera. So if you run the uninstaller, you'd need to reinstall both versions of Flash Player afterwards to have Flash in both families of web browsers.

Alternately, you can manually delete the offending obsolete Flash file. Secunia will help you find it. Click the folder icon circled here:

PSI_manual_removal.png


The location of the file will be opened, and you should be able to delete it. In the case of Flash Player 6.x, the file you want to delete is flash.ocx.

For the EOL QuickTime Player, there's no official uninstaller that I'm aware of, so again, just use the manual approach.

Hope that helps :)
 
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