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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)

    Quote Originally Posted by HIDSGT View Post
    I think its comical how under powered these are vs. how over priced and heavy they are. a whopping 3000 lumens at only 10 lbs smh lol on sale for only $6000!!!! I guess they are classics tho.
    It's almost as if there are other things that matter that aren't just lumens!!11!1! WOW!!1!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIDSGT View Post
    I think its comical how under powered these are vs. how over priced and heavy they are. a whopping 3000 lumens at only 10 lbs smh lol on sale for only $6000!!!! I guess they are classics tho.
    Overpriced is relative term. There aren't many HID lights that have gone through the military approval process which adds to the price. I'd never have reason to mount a light to a M2, 20mm recoilless rifle or 40mm launcher. If I did, I'm sure the Hellfighter would function just fine.

    10 pounds weight? Hellfighter 1 lights bare are maybe 3.5 pounds. Only style cables add weight and so does having two BB2590 or 5590 batteries.

    I don't know how Surefire is treating customers now, but they've completely gone through 3 of my lights replacing seals, gaskets and a battery on my Hellfighter 4 light for the price of shipping.

    I'm unaware of any other company that offers the service that Surefire did for purchasers of used lighting equipment.

    I couldn't get Xeononics to sell me a battery for my Night Hunter 1 that I purchased new 2 years earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoNotAgain View Post
    I couldn't get Xeononics to sell me a battery for my Night Hunter 1 that I purchased new 2 years earlier.
    They (Xenonics) are gone now about a year, maybe more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XeRay View Post
    They (Xenonics) are gone now about a year, maybe more.
    Ray, I understand that. They underwent a few legal name changes before failing to garner a major military contract. Then they went bust.

    I purchased my Night Hunter just prior to them switching over to NiMH batteries which only happened for a year before the lithium battery was made standard.

    Their customer service was the pits. When I called about the lead acid 20v battery, they told me they only get them in once a year. I ended up making a pack with 18650 lithium cells as well as getting a RC hobby pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HIDSGT View Post
    I think its comical how under powered these are vs. how over priced and heavy they are. a whopping 3000 lumens at only 10 lbs smh lol on sale for only $6000!!!! I guess they are classics tho.
    There are many factors that go into coming up with a price. In the case of the Hellfighter, first would be making the entire light rugged enough to stand up under battlefield conditions when mounted on the guns it is designed for. Greater cost for parts and a great deal of development cost to test all the permutations. Next big cost factor is convincing the government that it will perform as specified. If you have never looked into what it takes to get something MIL-SPEC certified, do so. It is very interesting. Remember the fuss over $400 hammers a few years ago? Some idiot slapped a MIL-SPEC requirement on a procurement for a regular hammer, and the extra cost of complying is what drove the cost that high. Third, and probably just as important, is Surefire's warranty service. If you happen to fumble finger mounting your Hellfighter on your Ma Deuce while in convoy and the track behind you runs over it, Surefire will still replace it, no questions asked. Then tell me they are overpriced.

    Personally, if I am out there on the pointy end of the stick, I would gladly pay whatever it takes to make sure my equipment is going to work 'first time - every time' if I am going to bet my life on it.
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    Thread resurrection time!

    I recently purchased a Hellfighter in very good condition and I'm excited to finally have one after lusting years ago. I had an adapter made to attach it to my rifle tripod and I plan to use this setup with the IR filter to put some coyotes down with it.

    I have an Amphenol connector coming tomorrow so I can get started on a power cord. I was wondering if anyone happens to know the model number of the female Amphenol connector that would plug in to the male? I'd like to have a short cord where I can use the Hellfighter as a handheld spotlight from my truck and a much longer cord I could use to get the rifle/tripod/Hellfighter setup a ways away from a 12v source.

    Here's a few pics of my setup:




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    Evilgrin07 Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)

    I made an analysis of the types and quantities of HELLFIRE and HELLFIGHTER based on the information I could find for your reference. If there are any errors in the data and contents, please let me know and I will correct them.
    1. The date of products is illustrated in the picture. For example, HELLFIRE Prototype V1 and V2 are respectively labeled as prototypes (unmass-produced products). HELLFIRE and HELLFIGHTER for mass production also use V+ number to mark the order of production.
    2. The yellow arrows in the picture indicate the differences of products of different ages.
    3. As for the quantity of products in different ages, I calculated it, especially the quantity of the first generation HELLFIRE. HELLFIGHTER starts out fairly accurately.
    4. The table illustrates the differences of products in different ages.
    5. The types and quantities of HELLFIGHTER 4 and HELLFIGHTER 5 are not counted in the pictures and tables.
    I hope that through the analysis of the product model and the production quantity of each model, I can fully understand its situation. This information is not very practical, but for a lover, it is part of the hobby. What's more, we love them, so we should learn more about them, which will become part of our fun.

    No cooling ring


    5 cooling rings


    5 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V1 5 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V2 6 cooling rings


    HELLFIGHTER V1 6 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V2 6 cooling rings

    HELLFIGHTER V3 6 cooling rings
    Last edited by bound; 08-26-2019 at 03:09 AM.
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    Hello Good people, any of you know where one might find parts for the Hellfighter? I'm looking for the part shown in the last pic posted shown with arrow # 3, the front mounting ring.

    Quote Originally Posted by bound View Post
    I made an analysis of the types and quantities of HELLFIRE and HELLFIGHTER based on the information I could find for your reference. If there are any errors in the data and contents, please let me know and I will correct them.
    1. The date of products is illustrated in the picture. For example, HELLFIRE Prototype V1 and V2 are respectively labeled as prototypes (unmass-produced products). HELLFIRE and HELLFIGHTER for mass production also use V+ number to mark the order of production.
    2. The yellow arrows in the picture indicate the differences of products of different ages.
    3. As for the quantity of products in different ages, I calculated it, especially the quantity of the first generation HELLFIRE. HELLFIGHTER starts out fairly accurately.
    4. The table illustrates the differences of products in different ages.
    5. The types and quantities of HELLFIGHTER 4 and HELLFIGHTER 5 are not counted in the pictures and tables.
    I hope that through the analysis of the product model and the production quantity of each model, I can fully understand its situation. This information is not very practical, but for a lover, it is part of the hobby. What's more, we love them, so we should learn more about them, which will become part of our fun.

    No cooling ring


    5 cooling rings


    5 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V1 5 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V2 6 cooling rings


    HELLFIGHTER V1 6 cooling rings


    HELLFIRE V2 6 cooling rings

    HELLFIGHTER V3 6 cooling rings

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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)

    Can anyone see the pictures?

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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)

    Well they were there when I post my question, I'm looking for the ring on the front of light that holds the filter ring.

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