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    They are a phone call away and that's the way they will stay for now given the price point

    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation View Post
    oh, btw shortarc...did those 2590 cells come?

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    Here is a power source alternative to the traditional military batteries. A123 packs. This makes the Hellfighter mobile with substantial weight reduction


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    Here is a power source alternative to the traditional military batteries. A123 packs. This makes the Hellfighter mobile with substantial weight reduction
    VERY NICE! Thanks for sharing.

    What do you estimate the runtime to be on this set-up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seery View Post
    VERY NICE! Thanks for sharing.

    What do you estimate the runtime to be on this set-up?
    Seery,
    Conservatively I would estimate 40min for a 4S1P pack but I will do a runtime test over the weekend.

    I just got back in from a little test run and I am amazed a the throw of the Hellfighter compared to the Beast II (and all my other HIDs). Output is less than that of say a Polarion or BB but what a spot!!! This thing was build for throw.

    Cheers.

    PS. Post 1: Added some pics of the Beast II head on the Hellfighter body. Kind of cool looking...

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    Man....What a set-up that is!!!

    I LOVE IT!!!

    Glad to hear to throws well.
    Any chance of beamshot comparing it to some other lights?

    I really regret not buying one when I had the chance..

    Thanks for all the pictures, as this my be the closest I'll ever be to seeing one in such detail.
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    HOLY CRAP. BEST LEGO EVER!!!!!! Thank you so much for sharing with us.


    edit:

    Just dl the 2002 catalog and there is this awesome picture of PK and the prototype BEAST/Hellfire

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    Is this the one that recently sold at ebay ?
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    PK's all young and nice looking back then... which reminds me where did I put all my old catalogs

    the one on the right? ebay? seriously!?

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    I'm talking about the Hellfighter of the OP.
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    I just finished an actual run time test for an A123 4S1P pack:
    Time: 30 mins
    Charge added to pack: 2160mAh

    Cheers.

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    Here is as close as I can get to the Hellfighter




    Last edited by Solscud007; 12-01-2008 at 07:16 AM.
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    Solscud007,
    Please can you reduce the size of the image you've posted so that it complies with out rules. It's far too huge!

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    Sure thing. Sorry. Im just a big fan of hi-resolution images. I will use the thumbnails from now on.

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    Thanks for resizing. We have image size rules due to the variety of ways people access CPF - not everybody has a huge monitor afterall.

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    Neither do I. I use a 15" screen laptop. but I can understand that connection-wise, large images take a LONG time to load for some people.
    Collecting is not about what you have but rather what you DONT have . . . yet.
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    The Cable: Follow the Amphenol Angle Plug (top left) to a “Y” in the two cables. The cables are standard SJEOOW Cord (14 & 18 AWG). One run goes to the switch (custom Surefire by the looks of it) the other goes to the dual Ba-5590 battery plugs (also custom?) and then continues to a spare fuse holder (machined aluminum) and ends with a 12V adapter and cover (also machined aluminum).

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    I assume that this cable will be very badly treated in use (through use) and will need to withstand use, misuse and abuse...
    I'd be interested in your impression of it from this perspective if you feel able to comment?

    Also, seems strange that the covers of the dual Ba-5590 battery plugs aren't retained by tethers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    In today's cut throat, cost cutting, move production overseas world, it's very comforting knowing Surefire
    spares no expenses when it comes to the quality and R&D that went into the Beast and the Hellfighter.

    While most companies would call it good enough, Surefire makes continual refinements to these products.

    Thanks for the pic and the explanation. I hope shortly to have a Hellfighter of my own and appreciate your
    help and expertise over this past week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredericoFreire View Post
    I'm talking about the Hellfighter of the OP.
    ah, gotcha

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    DAMN what an incredible light you've got there, ShortArc!!!!!!
    Thanks a lot for sharing those amazing photos!!!!!!

    -Clive

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    I would love to see a beamshot shootout with Beast vs. Hellfighter vs. Polarion PH40...
    Resistance is futile...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DM51 View Post
    I would love to see a beamshot shootout with Beast vs. Hellfighter vs. Polarion PH40...
    You really want me to head out into the cold New England winter night don't you?!
    I'll see what I can do but I don't have too much distance for shots around my house....

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    Then put some distance between you and your house. For CPF. For your fellow flashaholics who want to drool over those great lights they will most likely never own.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiessling View Post
    Then put some distance between you and your house. For CPF. For your fellow flashaholics who want to drool over those great lights they will most likely never own.



    bernie

    I will I will .... I was just too darn cold tonight and tomorrow promises to be worse...so hopefully later in the week.

    In the mean time a new wiring harness for more compactness.

    The Hellfighter has a "hotspot" which out throws almost every light I own (except for the Harbor Freight orange monster and the Maxabeam I used to own).


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    The Hellfighter has a "hotspot" which out throws almost every light I own (except for the Harbor Freight orange monster and the Maxabeam I used to own).

    Can't wait to see some beamshots.

    Awesome set-up on the wiring harness. I like your idea of sewing a custom nylon cover
    with a velcro or zipper closure on the bottom side to cover the unprotected wires.

    Would keep things protected and sheltered from the elements, and OK it would also look
    just simply bad ass!

    Keep this up and you'll be the death of my wallet!!!

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    My Bren-Tronics BB-2590/U military batteries arrived.
    Here is the spec:

    Description . . . . . . . . Rechargeable, Lithium Ion Battery with “State of Charge Display”
    National Stock Number . . . . . 6140-01-490-4316
    For Use In . . . . . . . . SINCGARS & ATCS (AN/PRC-104, 119) FALCON (AN/PRC-138117) KY-57, MXF430 (V), AN/PSC-5, M22.
    Replacement for or Compatible with . . . BB-590/U, BB-390A/U, BB-690/Y, BA-3590/U & BA-5590/U.
    Nominal Dimensions . . . . . . Length: 4.40 in (111.76mm)
    Width: 2.45 in (62.23 mm)
    Height: 5.00 in (127.00 mm)
    Nominal Weight . . . . . . . 3.10 Lb (1.4 Kg)
    MaximumVoltage . . . . . . . 33.0 V, Two (2) 16.5 V Section
    NominalVoltage . . . . . . . 28.8 V, Two (2) 14.4 V Section
    Nominal Capacity . . . . . . . 6.2 Ah @ 28.8 V — 12.4 Ah @ 14.4 V
    Cutoff Voltage . . . . . . . . 20.0 V———-10.0 V
    Operating Temperature Range . . . . -20ºC to +55ºC (-4ºF to +131ºF)
    Storage Temperature Range . . . . . -20ºC to +55ºC (-4ºF to +131ºF)
    Case Material & Color. . . . . . . Modified ABS plastic, Sand Color with Yellow printing.
    Connector . . . . . . . . Floating Type Per U.S. Army DWG# SC-C-179495
    Recommended Charger s. . . . . . PP-8498/U (SPC), PP-8481A/U (COTM)
    Standard Charge . . . . . . . Charge each section independently at constant voltage of 16.5V 3 A (max) for 5 Hr

    As I do not have a military charger the charging procedure is a little cryptic:
    Charge each 12V section independently at 16.5V constant Voltage (3 amps max). Charge is completed when current drops to 100mA.
    To allow charging to proceed, separately apply 5VDC through a 470 Ohm 1/4W resistor between the “charge enable” contact (+) and pin 6 of the main connector (-).

    Also you have to make yourself a custom wiring harness unless you buy one from a military supplier and pay some $$$.

    Sorry still no beam shots as we had an ice storm here and only got power back two days ago. Life is still playing catch-up. Well, with a little time for battery charging of course.

    Cheers.






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    "DO NOT USE IN JAVELIN"



    You got some nice equipment there..

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    DM51

    Hellfighter vs PH/PF40:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=183604

    The 50-watt capability of the Polarion "Night Reaper" would further widen the gap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    *Pictures*
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    Ken,
    I believe the reflector design of the current HF is different from the one used in your photos. It now appears to have alot more throw.
    No doubt, the Polarions (I know because I own a few) boast a much higher lumens rating.
    Cheers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ken J. Good View Post
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    Hellfighter vs PH/PF40:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=183604

    The 50-watt capability of the Polarion "Night Reaper" would further widen the gap.

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