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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    Ken,
    I believe the reflector design of the current HF is different from the one used in your photos. It now appears to have alot more throw.
    No doubt, the Polarions (I know because I own a few) boast a much higher lumens rating.
    Cheers.
    That is correct ShortArc.

    4-5 months ago a Surefire rep at the SANG Base said they had redesigned the reflector
    on the Hellfighter as well as the new Beast II from the original Beast.

    How does your new Hellfighter compare to your Polarion's in terms of throw? Even taking
    into consideration the Polarion's higher output?

    Great pics!

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    oh my ... that's saying something.

    no shoulder rockets for you

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    Thanx for the update:

    Going to have to get a Hellfighter with the new reflector and do it again.
    Does the new reflector drops into the previous Hellfighter body?

    Is the same parabola, without the stippling?

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    Nice Short-arc. I haven't been back a this thread for a while but I really like the A123 and Dean's connector set-up. I'm going to guess that configuration provides almost and hour of light? I'd like to make a set-up like that for my Maxabeam but run eight A123s in a 4s2p configuration. At 75W it would give me about an hour of run-time and weigh half what the nicad does.

    Nice pictures by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot36 View Post
    Nice Short-arc. I haven't been back a this thread for a while but I really like the A123 and Dean's connector set-up. I'm going to guess that configuration provides almost and hour of light? I'd like to make a set-up like that for my Maxabeam but run eight A123s in a 4s2p configuration. At 75W it would give me about an hour of run-time and weigh half what the nicad does.

    Nice pictures by the way!
    Patriot36,
    I had several setups including a 4s2p for my Maxabeam. Great combo. I'll lookup my runtimes and PM to you later. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Member View Post
    "DO NOT USE IN JAVELIN"



    You got some nice equipment there..
    I just tried it and the BB-2590/U works just fine in the Javelin. It just has not been certified yet!
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    Correction, I just found this:
    The BB-2590/U is NOT APPROVED for use in the Javelin Command Launch Unit.
    The higher voltage of the BB-2590/U will damage the CLU control unit.
    Last edited by ShortArc; 12-20-2008 at 09:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShortArc View Post
    Patriot36,
    I had several setups including a 4s2p for my Maxabeam. Great combo. I'll lookup my runtimes and PM to you later. Cheers.

    Received your info. Thank you! I'm digging into it right now.


    I would also love to see some comparison shots since it's being claimed that the reflector has been redesigned. Would this particular Hellfighter fall into that category or is this light one of the older ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot36 View Post
    Received your info. Thank you! I'm digging into it right now.


    I would also love to see some comparison shots since it's being claimed that the reflector has been redesigned. Would this particular Hellfighter fall into that category or is this light one of the older ones?
    The Hellfighters I own have the new reflector. I could only deduct from Ken's pictures that there was a reflector change. Seery confirmed my suspicion.
    Cheers.

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    Truly the most incredible illumination tools I've ever seen to date.

    On an aside, *MAN* would I ever love to be the proverbial "fly on the wall" when PK, outfitted with his deluxe SureFire travel assortment, is making his way through a pre-flight screening process conducted by Airport Security!!!

    -Clive

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    Mil powered belt pack ready to go with Santa.




    Happy Holidays Everyone!
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    Nice short-arc. What's the capacity of those things?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot36 View Post
    Nice short-arc. What's the capacity of those things?
    See post #56.

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    I just performed a runtime test with one of the BB-2590/U batteries.
    Here are the results, nothing unusual:
    Runtime: 3:53 hours
    V start: 15.5V approx
    V final: 11.8V approx (battery circuit shut off before I could get the last reading)
    Startup current: 7.0A
    Steady state current: 3.0A
    Average P measured: 47.5W
    Surface Temperature of light (front to back): 145 to 116 degrees Fahrenheit.

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    I have to get me a Hellfighter after reading this thread..



    This is the best thread ever on showing the Hellfighter.

    Many thanks to you ShortArc for making all of this available to us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Member View Post

    This is the best thread ever on showing the Hellfighter.

    Many thanks to you ShortArc for making all of this available to us.
    +1 Without any doubt - THE very best Hellfighter thread to date!
    Thank you, ShortArc.
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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)

    As requested by some CPF members I added some more info to Post 1, including connector and battery info, etc.
    Cheers.

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    I did not realize the Beast and Hellfighter used the same size threading. Thanks a lot, you just made me want a Beast even more. :P

    Nice lights btw.
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    Hello everybody, this is the best light in the history of mankind; I will get one now that I found the best information on the Web; here in this Forum. Unfortunately the cables are mega-expensive but now that ShortArc demonstrate the option of the “A123 4S1P Pack” on Post #40 everything is getting better.
    ShrtArc, I need some help; I went to www.maxamps.com/products.php?cat=62 to check out the battery pack but there are so many options that I don’t know what to buy! Here are the options;
    1- What is the name of the plug that will connect a cable to the back of the Hellfighter housing? There are 14 options!!!
    2- What kind of balancing taps; I don’t even know that is this! Choose from 6 options.
    3- Type of wire; anyways they only sell one kind which is “12 awg Deans Ultra wire”; is this a good one?
    4- And a warranty from 30 days or 3 years!

    In addition to that they have a side by side model and a straight model to choose from! I will imagine that the onw in the picture is a side by side configuration; right?
    Well everybody is welcome to help or comment and if somebody did the research already of the lowest Hellfigther price only please write a replay with the information! Thanks to all!

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    Welcome to CPF cavemaster.
    I do not have time for a detailed response but if you do not already own A123 (Vnom=3.3V) cells you may want to consider "regular" Lithium Ion cells because their nominal voltage (Vnom=3.6V) is higher giving you more run time. Remember the cut off voltage of the HF is between 11.5-12V. There are pros and cons to A123 vs regular lithium chemistry and I am sure other on the forum know alot more than I.

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    I finally got my dream light today!!

    Now to get the parts together for the cable and time to save up for a battery.

    ShortArc...THANKS for all the help and info!!

    EDIT: Amphenol Plugs ordered....hopefully will be here by the end of next week.

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    Did you get a Hellfighter DaFab!!!?

    ...I can´t belive this...everyone owns one and I don´t...





    Congrats DaFab

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    Quote Originally Posted by Team Member View Post


    Did you get a Hellfighter DaFab!!!?

    ...I can´t belive this...everyone owns one and I don´t...





    Congrats DaFab
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    VERY nice!








    also...

    j/k ..It's got plenty of "worth"!! but beamshots would put a capper on it!
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    Congratulations DaFABRICATA!
    The light looks mint. What a score.
    Make sure you get at least one of the BB-2590/U bats. They are light weight and give you real nice run time!
    Seery you are next?!
    I am also glad I am not the only one on the hook for beam shots anymore. We had snow and ice storms here one after another.

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    cant wait for beamshots
    yeah i bought another one... the last one just wasnt what i was looking for

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFABRICATA View Post

    I finally got my dream light today!!

    Now to get the parts together for the cable and time to save up for a battery.

    ShortArc...THANKS for all the help and info!!

    EDIT: Amphenol Plugs ordered....hopefully will be here by the end of next week.
    WOW INDEED, DaFABRICATA!!! That's one HELL of a Hellfighter to be certain!!! Yessir -- a score beyond all others, IMHO.

    Amphenol makes some of the best connectors on Planet Earth. I've used them extensively in RF work and for the occasional power application. In other words, a great choice you made, Sir.

    Congratulations, my man! I *KNOW* you'll be having a blast with your new toy . . . just don't shine the thing in my eyes!

    -Clive

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozner1991 View Post

    Can't wait for beamshots.
    +1

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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)BEAMSHOTS

    Thanks guys!

    MAN!!! THIS SUCKER THROWS!!!

    I made a test cable tonight and was able to get some crappy beamshots. Once it stops snowing I'll get better pics.

    BEAMSHOTS AT YOUR REQUEST:

    Fivemega Bi-pin Holder 1185 with 3X AW IMR16340
    Host: Surefire C3/ 3" Turbohead/ Z59 with AW's Soft-Start



    HELLFIGHTER..



    C3/3" Turbohead - 1185


    HELLFIGHTER..






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    Default Re: Surefire Hellfighter (picture intensive)BEAMSHOTS

    More Beamshots....

    HOST: TB 2 X 18650 Body/ KT4 Turbohead/ AW Soft-start-Z59/ MN21/ 2 X AW' IMR18650's




    HELLFIGHTER..



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    Great DaFABRICATA!
    The HF is a laser.
    Not a bright as some of the other HIDs but it has a nice outer flood for general illumination and then a real spot! The Beast II by comparison has the smoothest flood I have ever used. The Polarions are in between and will probably appeal to more people.
    Now that DaFABRICATA proved you can take beam shot in the freezing cold and a snow storm I have no more excuses. It's a balmy 12F out so I may just head out now for a full suite of comparison shots....NOT.

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