RA 85 or RA 100? is the red worth it?
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Nyctophiliac
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+1 - Optik 49.
Yep, I too would really like to know this.
Almost pushed the button on this one a few times now, Dr.Strangelove would be proud of the struggle between my 'push send' hand with my 'wallet conscious' hand whilst I can only look on and wonder who'll win!
Feedback on this much mentioned light would be great.
Be lucky....
Yep, I too would really like to know this.
Almost pushed the button on this one a few times now, Dr.Strangelove would be proud of the struggle between my 'push send' hand with my 'wallet conscious' hand whilst I can only look on and wonder who'll win!
Feedback on this much mentioned light would be great.
Be lucky....
tebore
Flashlight Enthusiast
It's not just the red. The red version has more throw, the beam is narrower.
I'd go with the red if I had the funds to get one. The ability for low red and a narrower beam is worth the 15 lm difference. A 15lm difference isn't even noticeable to the naked eye.
I'd go with the red if I had the funds to get one. The ability for low red and a narrower beam is worth the 15 lm difference. A 15lm difference isn't even noticeable to the naked eye.
Enzo Morocioli
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What's great about the 85Tr versus the 100Tw is that the difference in output of 15lm (which is almost not noticeable) is trumped by the ~20% increase in throw from the osram emitter.
The red is perfect for navigating around the house at night, maintaining the natural night vision of our eyes. A low level white can accomplish the same thing, but with the 85Tr you have a choice!
So yes, the Tr is worth it. It costs less, and gives you more options... Now if you perhaps want a little wider hotspot, and still decent throw, with 15lm more output, no red, and higher cost, go for the 100Tw!
Both of them will do you well; red withstanding for special purposes, white for the extra output.
The red is perfect for navigating around the house at night, maintaining the natural night vision of our eyes. A low level white can accomplish the same thing, but with the 85Tr you have a choice!
So yes, the Tr is worth it. It costs less, and gives you more options... Now if you perhaps want a little wider hotspot, and still decent throw, with 15lm more output, no red, and higher cost, go for the 100Tw!
Both of them will do you well; red withstanding for special purposes, white for the extra output.
Nyctophiliac
Flashlight Enthusiast
Thanks Enzo,
Just about convinced me to go with the 85. Always like red for those nightime excursions to the bathroom, traversing a hazardous wasteland of discarded toys and cups and clothes ( not me, my kids!) on the way with eyes that just want to be closed and sleeping.
Cool bananas,
Be lucky...
Just about convinced me to go with the 85. Always like red for those nightime excursions to the bathroom, traversing a hazardous wasteland of discarded toys and cups and clothes ( not me, my kids!) on the way with eyes that just want to be closed and sleeping.
Cool bananas,
Be lucky...
Enzo Morocioli
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I'd say that qualifies for "special purposes"... haha :tinfoil:
DaFABRICATA
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Any pics of the red lit up?
Not beamshots, but into the emitter?
I remember seeing them one time and just tried searching with no luck
Not beamshots, but into the emitter?
I remember seeing them one time and just tried searching with no luck
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shomie911
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The 85-Tr is the best EDC I've ever owned.
Enzo Morocioli
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DaFABRICATA
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Thank you Enzo!!!
Very cool looking!
Very cool looking!
Guys have you checked out Enzo's Ra Twisty information repository? It is packed with info and ultimately led me to pull the trigger. I have the Ra 85 and I don't use the red but im glad it's there, i sometimes program it in but always seem to go back to the .08lm for a nitelight. It's a great light and Im glad I bought it!!!!!! Doug
I have an 85-TR and love the narrow beam AND the spill is very usable.
The red is PERFECT for reading at night when the woman cannot be bothered and trips to the bathroom!
I would buy a 85-TR again in a heartbeat if I lost mine.
The red is PERFECT for reading at night when the woman cannot be bothered and trips to the bathroom!
I would buy a 85-TR again in a heartbeat if I lost mine.
WadeF
Flashlight Enthusiast
Is it true the red draws 500mA? I've heard the red wasn't supposed to be used in such a way and was there as a warning if the LED wasn't wired correctly. Has anyone figured out if this is the case?
DaFABRICATA
Flashlight Enthusiast
I have this Cree UV emitter that has a red die that will light up when tapped just right along with the UV.
From what I understand, it is reverse polarity protection.
I wonder I were to use the driver from a Ra, if I could make the UV emither do the same as the Golden Dragon??
Just look at my Avitar for what I am talking about.
From what I understand, it is reverse polarity protection.
I wonder I were to use the driver from a Ra, if I could make the UV emither do the same as the Golden Dragon??
Just look at my Avitar for what I am talking about.
tebore
Flashlight Enthusiast
It's lighting up in the forward current I think in your other thread the comment about it being an indicator of correct hook up more likely than it as a reverse current indicator.
Why not try pulling up the spec sheets from Cree to see what it says.
About the red drawing 500mAh. My guess is it's drawing much less due to the runtime charts posted. http://www.bisdow.com/raaa/ratwistyruntime.html
Assuming a CR123 has 1500mAh and a converter efficiency of 80% and with a runtime of ~10 hours I'd say about ~120-150mAh to the LED. Yes it's a reverse current indicator that wasn't designed this way, but it's an interesting use of it.
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tricker
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yes, 7777 verified this as to why he wouldn't try it on the smart PD
this is why i would pick the Ra100
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To the OP - there is an awesome deal on a used 85-TR on the marketplace - $110 plus an extra battery case:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?p=2237981#post2237981
Go for it! :devil:
http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?p=2237981#post2237981
Go for it! :devil:
Enzo Morocioli
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Yes.. But read HDS's methodology about the red diode:
HDS said:
I would reckon that HDS devised a way to use this protection diode safely. It is true though that it is not the most efficient diode, at roughly 37 hours of continuous runtime on a fresh CR123 primary, where you can get 4 days at 0.33lm of white.
tricker
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its is safe...I know henry wouldn't release something that isn't.....but osram obviously didn't want the red to be used as a continuous source of light and as you know the runtime for such low level of light(on red) leaves alot to be desired.... but if you want a tough light with a low red this is your only option(not that its a bad option) go for it:thumbsup:
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