Where can I buy a L2D Premium Q5 Head ?

NightTime

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A few months ago, I left my L2D at turbo mode for to long
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. It was a Premium 100 version (those tiny little emitters). Guess what ? The emitter is burned now
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. It shines like a 5mm emitter! Very purple color.

Anyway, I thought it would be a nice opportunitty to "upgrade" it with the Premium Q5 version. The problem is that I can't find Q5 heads to buy. If I go to 4sevens.com and click on Fenix parts it says Non-Q5 L1D/L2D/P2D Heads.

Any ideas for a place to buy? Thanks!

BTW a LD20 would also do the job I guess.
 

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There were some bad recalled Rebel emitters put onto the market. That is one reason Fenix stopped using them. You may have received a bad one. I suggest you contact your dealer for a replacement.
 

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how are you with modding? You could open it up and put in an R2 :D

I allready opened it. I had this strange idea of installing a MC-E Cree quad emitter in it. Then I realised I would need something else then just two AA in it in order to have the proper voltage.

Anyway, I'm not sure soldering an emitter with my 18$ soldering gun :thinking: ! I'll burn it for sure!
 

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There were some bad recalled Rebel emitters put onto the market. That is one reason Fenix stopped using them. You may have received a bad one. I suggest you contact your dealer for a replacement.


Forget replacement, I opened it. I allready said to myself that I probably just had a bad emitter. But I wasn't sure chosing between a 35$ new Q5 head or I don't know how much for shipping and handling for another R100 replacement.
 

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I allready opened it. I had this strange idea of installing a MC-E Cree quad emitter in it. Then I realised I would need something else then just two AA in it in order to have the proper voltage.

Anyway, I'm not sure soldering an emitter with my 18$ soldering gun :thinking: ! I'll burn it for sure!

lol, my first dabble into soldering was with a 18W soldering iron of my dad's from the 1950's or so, soldered about 10 rebels on boards with this plus a load of connections. Now using a "temperature controlled" soldering iron (i.e, big pot in series with the resistor) from maplin for £5 ($8) and I plan to solder in series 7 MC-E's with this setup (and a magnifying glass!)

It's not as hard as you think! And if you do fry it, what have you lost?

As for an MC-E, it's perfectly possible. I plan to run one in parallel at about 100ma, so each die is running as efficiently as possible for 40 odd lumens at 130+ lumens/watt off a single AAA alkie. Obviously, if you want to overdrive it for ~20 watts/emitter (another project of mine ;)) you'll need substantially more than 2xAA's; 6 IMR18650's to be precise :ironic:


The main problem with the MC-E is with such a small reflector is that you can easily end up with a donut hole (ergh)
 

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EliteLED had some not that long ago.

Looks like the best I can get is another Luxeon Rebel 100 head. That makes 56.62 $ for a simple head. 29.95+17.00 shipping = 46.95 converted into Canadian$ --> 56.62$. At that price I should buy another one. Thank you anyway for the link.
 

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How about buying a L1D and then you swap the head between the two bodies and have the option to have a 1xAA or 2xAA light.
 

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The main problem with the MC-E is with such a small reflector is that you can easily end up with a donut hole (ergh)

It would be fun to try though :devil:. So running a MC-E with 2aa sounds possible to you? I was reading this post last week:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/212835

But I still can't figure how I should do my jumpers. Lots of different ways to plug it. Also, can I keep my circuit? If not, than I won't start this kind of mod. I'll wait for another generation from Fenix.

As I was finished makind my own Super long lasting Headlamp (L1D head with 2AA*4 in parallel), I saw their new headband :shakehead. I'll fix my L2D (if it's repaired) and my Olight T25 with Surefire F04 in option in it and here we go. Better than my bulky headlamp.
 

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Could swap the LED for a Cree XP-E. You can't use a XR-E because the reflector is not right for it.

I thought the same thing. But after dismantling the head, there was a thin donut shaped kind of ring-spacer-adapter around the emitter that fell off. I got rid of it. Now I can solder a XR-E emitter.
 

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How about buying a L1D and then you swap the head between the two bodies and have the option to have a 1xAA or 2xAA light.

I allready have the L1D Premium Q5 as my EDC light. I don't like to think that my L2D body is an option. It's another light. I don't like to swap the heads everytime. By the mean time, that's what I do. Actually no. I use my Olight T25 instead, but I wish getting both on a Fenix Headband. Might be a little bit heavy though :thinking:. I'll try it anyway.
 

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But what about the hole in the reflector base itself???

The donut shaped kind of ring-spacer-adapter was around the emitter AT the base of the reflector. Sorry I wasn't clear. I would like to send some pics but I can't figure how! When I press the "Insert image" icon there is a window asking me to write the URL? I need a "browser" button. Anyway I'm not sure I want to look for this tiny little thing in my garbage can. Might be a reason to use my flashlight though :whistle:. Just kidding.
 
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It would be fun to try though :devil:. So running a MC-E with 2aa sounds possible to you? I was reading this post last week:
https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/212835

But I still can't figure how I should do my jumpers. Lots of different ways to plug it. Also, can I keep my circuit? If not, than I won't start this kind of mod. I'll wait for another generation from Fenix.

Depends. The easiest way would be to wire it 4P, then solder as you would to an XR-E with the original driver. If you want to go wild, you could solder it 4P, remove the circuit, put in a new one capable of belting out 2A+ and have monster output from a really small light, the main problem would be finding a driver small enough that's capable of outputting that much current; I can't think of any off the top of my head.

If using an MC-E, it's probably not a bad idea to stick a bit of scotch tape on the inside of the glass lens to smooth out the beam a bit (though it will make it floodier)

I would like to send some pics but I can't figure how! Went I press the "Insert image" icon there is a window asking me to write the URL? I need a "browser" button.

There's no attach option on CPF. You need to upload your images, say at imageshack (where you will get a browser window up), then link to the images URL in the forum using the image button. Also, images need to be smaller than 800x800 pixels :)
 

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Like Marduke said the Rebel reflector won't work with a Cree, I've tried it, crappy beam. If you're going to put a Cree in the light, I have a Cree reflector that I'll trade for your Rebel one. PM me if interested.
 

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[...]put in a new one capable of belting out 2A+ and have monster output from a really small light, the main problem would be finding a driver small enough that's capable of outputting that much current; I can't think of any off the top of my head.

If using an MC-E, it's probably not a bad idea to stick a bit of scotch tape on the inside of the glass lens to smooth out the beam a bit (though it will make it floodier)

I think the Eagletac P10A2 has a A800 driver and did read on a thread (can't find it) that the batteries where driven very hard on HIGH (>2 amps). I think all give the mod a try.

I don't think all need to flood the beam with the MC-E. It's already floodier than other pills. BTW, I don't think the scotch tape would survive long with that amount of light :D.
Thank for the explanation about uploading pictures :thanks:.
 

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Like Marduke said the Rebel reflector won't work with a Cree, I've tried it, crappy beam. If you're going to put a Cree in the light, I have a Cree reflector that I'll trade for your Rebel one. PM me if interested.


Thanks for the warning. I took note of your proposition. Do you think the MC-E pill fits with a Cree reflector?

I'm not sure, but I think we are becoming off topic here:thinking:. Sorry if that's the case, cause I'm still searching for a L2D/L1D/P2D Premium Q5 head...
 
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