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    Don,
    Does this mean that a 6V in a Makai is driven harder compared to a 6V in a Haiku?

    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post

    On a related note, the 6V LE that I am now using in the Makai 6V 2x123 offering can also be used as a driver for a Haiku 2x123 although I would set the current down to the 650 mA range because of the smaller head. I don't plan to offer such a light in any wave but it can be built on request. The reason I bring this up is that I can't detect the PWM in the 6V LE on low even with the wand waving technique. I would be curious if those sensitive to PWM can detect the PWM in the 6V LE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchiew View Post
    Don,
    Does this mean that a 6V in a Makai is driven harder compared to a 6V in a Haiku?
    With the XM-L LED given its greater efficiency and much higher max current compared to the XP-G, I have been building 6V Haiku XM-L lights using the same driver and same current level as that used on the 6V Makai. I leave it to the user to evaluate the heat being generated and throttle down the light if it is on high and getting uncomfortably warm.
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    I bought a "first McGizmo".
    I should have bought a "McGizmo" first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post
    With the XM-L LED given its greater efficiency and much higher max current compared to the XP-G, I have been building 6V Haiku XM-L lights using the same driver and same current level as that used on the 6V Makai. I leave it to the user to evaluate the heat being generated and throttle down the light if it is on high and getting uncomfortably warm.
    Don,
    Will a single RCR123 with 4.2V still be able to power a 6V Haiku XM-L? What is the voltage range for your 6V LE? Is it OK to run your 6V with 2 cell RCR123 (max voltage 8.4v)?

    Quote Originally Posted by fd3s View Post
    I bought a "first McGizmo".
    I should have bought a "McGizmo" first.
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    Last edited by BenChiew; 12-16-2012 at 01:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fd3s View Post
    I bought a "first McGizmo".
    I should have bought a "McGizmo" first.
    I totally agree with this statement

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    I posted this in the photos of your lights thread.... but also seems appropriate here

    My new Haiku Light Engine!

    Custom built by DatiLED - Neutral XML LED with custom light engine from

    http://theledguy.chainreactionweb.co...oducts_id=1291


    I think the levels that I chose went 10 , 500 1200 mA


    It does get hotter than the original one on the left but is brighter!






    Of course the downside of such a mod will be significantly reduced runtime...... as well as the heat .

    Probably best to have two heads (one with the original Light Engine setup and one with some mod!)
    Last edited by stoli67; 12-16-2012 at 02:38 PM.

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    Btw, the gdup circuit you linked fits in the standard McGizmo light engine if you just want custom levels. I have them in my lights.

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    Yep it has been placed in a standard mcGizmo light engine box and then a new led on top.

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    Stoli,

    Why did you not just remove the LED from the McGizmo board and then reflow the new LED onto it? Or did the modified board start life as something else other than XML based?

    eala

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    Ah I left it to datiLED to do the mod... the XML started life on a different board... and the drice from the sandwichshoppe..

    I think it turned out nicely though.

    It works well.

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    My GDUP arrived today. I have already reflowed a 5000K LED onto the McGizmo board. Now time for the 1.2 Amp driver.

    I love the McGizmo platform.

    eala

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    What levels did you get for the gdup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunga View Post
    What levels did you get for the gdup?
    Can you not order the GDuP with the drive level you want?

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    I'm just curious. My last one has 8-80-300-1200 mA. I'm quite liking it.
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    Default The Titanium "Haiku"

    Double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunga View Post
    I'm just curious. My last one has 8-80-300-1200 mA. I'm quite liking it.
    Will 8ma produce the firefly mode? and 1200ma must be scorching hot.

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    I got 10 120 600 1200. I really got this board for higher levels. Basically, I did want a "firefly" so I got a 10. Then I wanted something 10x higher, so I selected 120 and 10x that so 1200. The 600 was added since that is the drive current that normally drives the Haiku and it can be used safely for longer periods of time but still be plenty bright.

    The 1200 is brighter than the 600, but not exceptionally so. This was expected. I basically wanted two bright modes that I can choose from depending on desired runtime.

    It may be flawed logic to some, but it is mine, so I love it (the logic that is).

    The 1200 gets hotter faster, but is nowhere near one of Mac's 2800 mA lights. Still perfectly usable.

    eala

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    Fully understand your logic.

    As for me, I always keep them stock standard as how Don sets them.
    Just to muck around with it, I will get a separate LE and replace the original pill.
    Many sees this as silly but I accept what the original maker has done.

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    The 8ma will be a bunch brighter than firefly mode, kinda like a mizer version of the original low. Maybe half to two thirds of the original brightness. More runtime is always a good thing IMHO. I agree that the higher than stock drive levels that are being explored will not knock your socks off, I think Don chooses his levels close to the point of diminishing returns. Any more ma. up top results in much shorter runtime, greatly increased heat, and only marginally higher output in the grand scheme of things. A fine balance, in other words, of adequate brightness for most uses combined with good runtime and not turning the light into a handwarmer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunga View Post
    I'm just curious. My last one has 8-80-300-1200 mA. I'm quite liking it.
    I thought one wasn't able to go below 10ma on the higher output version? Am I wrong? (I hope so. This is getting exciting!)
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    My new light engine is definitely a little brighter than the stock XML one but not by a lot and it heats up a lot !

    Unfortunately I do not have another head with the right reflector to directly compare them ... My other haiku has an xpg ... I may need to get another head to compare ...

    Currently I am edcing my new haiku XML and an upgraded titanium RA clicky with a neutral XML ... Hard to go wrong with these two but I must say the haiku is getting more carry time!

    So simple to use and always works!

    Not sure what this means but a let my 3 yo boy use one of my lights and he picked one of my haikus... Won't sleep without it in his hand!

    I guess it means good taste!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrowned View Post
    I thought one wasn't able to go below 10ma on the higher output version? Am I wrong? (I hope so. This is getting exciting!)
    I asked a few times and got vague answers. Nonetheless that is what I ordered. My mule has 4-80-750 mA so
    You can get quite low!

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    I received my first McGizmo today, a Haiku XM-L. What an amazing little light! Due to this light, I have decided to join this cool forum. I have not even had my McGizmo for a day and I am already thinking about my next order. Thanks Don for such a wonderful product.

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    My second Titanium Haiku from Don, a 6v XM-L, another example of excellence!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Choester View Post
    I received my first McGizmo today, a Haiku XM-L. What an amazing little light! Due to this light, I have decided to join this cool forum. I have not even had my McGizmo for a day and I am already thinking about my next order. Thanks Don for such a wonderful product.
    Quote Originally Posted by Choester View Post
    My second Titanium Haiku from Don, a 6v XM-L, another example of excellence!
    Two posts, two McGizmos, one week ... very well done

    Oh yeah, and

    I predict you'll fit right in around here -
    Last edited by archimedes; 02-06-2013 at 11:30 PM.
    ... is the archimedes peak

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    Thank you for such a warm welcome archimedes!

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    Originally Posted by fd3s
    I bought a "first McGizmo".
    I should have bought a "McGizmo" first.

    Add me to the list too. (Haiku XM-L)

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    Hello,

    I recently bought a Haiku XML that takes one cr-123. Does this light manage these batteries: AW 16340 Lithium Manganese (IMR) 4.2 volt peak.



    best regards and first post!!


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    The IMR does not have a protection circuit. The Haiku XML 3S is regulated, but does not have a low voltage warning or cutoff. So you need to be careful not to over discharge the cell. In addition, IMR cells are good for high draw situations and McGizmos are not driven hard. The IMR will work, but less capacity (mAh) and lack of protection make them less than ideal. A CR123A Lithium primary will have the most capacity (mAh) and will drive the light just fine. An ICR Protected 16340 (RCR123A) will have less capacity than the lithium primary, more capacity than the IMR (750 vs. 550 mAh) and the protection circuit to ensure you don't over discharge your cell. I prefer guilt free lumens and use an AW ICR RCR123A.

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    Thanks!

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