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    I just received the Solarforce T4 Full Kit.



    Ths kit comes with the Solarforce T4 light that uses a 1 CR123 or 1 RCR123. An optional battery tube that uses 2AA sized batteries.

    The Solarforce T4 uses Type III Hard Anodize. The finish color does not match the 2AA Battery Tube. There are some flaws in the finish.

    The fit is excellent. Has smooth threads. O-rings were not lubed.







    The Lantern fits on the T4.



    The lens bezel assembly needs to be taken off. You need to unscrew clockwise, opposite of the usual clockwise to unscrew. When you install the T4 screw counterclockwise into the Lantern Head.







    A tripod for the lantern.



    This is where tripod screws into the lantern head.





    A Headlamp is included. The T4 head screws into it. A L2 Mini head will not screw into this. My headlamp does not work.



    Left Solarforce T4. Right, L2 Mini









    Battery door has a split ring to keep from loosing the cover.





    This is how you adjust the angle of the beam.



    OP Reflector produces a smooth beam.



    Uses a Cree Q5.





    Rear view of the Cree Q5 Module.



    Rear view of the lens bezel assembly.



    Front view of the battery tube.



    Battery has to be installed through the front of the battery tube.



    Clip fits in this slot.



    Rear forward clickie. It's 2 levels high and medium. The levels look very close. Solarforce should have used a lower low.



    Inside view of the rear clickie.



    Comes apart in 3 pieces.



    I was very surprised on how small the Solarforce T4 is.





    The 2AA battery tube makes the T4 long and skinny.





    I thought the Solarforce T4 would be very close in size to the Solarforce L2 Mini.

    Left, Solarforce T4. Right, Solarforce L2 Mini



    Left, Solarforce T4. Right, Solarforce L2 Mini



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    These are the lux readings I got. I am using AW's Black Protected RCR123's in both lights fully charged and I used Energizer Rechargeable nimh 2300mAh.


    Solarforce T4 Q5 1 RCR123 (High) - 3800 lux @ 1 meter

    Solarforce T4 Q5 1 RCR123 (Medium) - 2860 lux @ 1 meter

    Solarforce T4 Q5 2AA (High) - 2630 lux @ 1 meter

    Solarforce T4 Q5 2AA (Medium) - 890 lux @ 1 meter


    Solarforce L2 R2 1S Mini - 5,500 lux @ 1 meter


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    Solarforce T4 Q5 @ 96"



    Solarforce L2 R2 @ 96"



    Left, Solarforce T4 Q5. Right, Solarforce L2 R2 @ 96"



    Left, Solarforce T4 Q5. Right, Solarforce L2 R2 @ 96" Stepped down exposure






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    Pros

    Type III Hard Anodize

    Smooth beam.

    Small

    Can use RCR123's.

    T4 head can fit on a headlamp.




    Cons

    Headlamp does not work.

    Mis-match of Type III Hard Anodize.

    Flaws in the finish.

    O-rings not lubed.

    Needs a lower low. The levels are too close to each other.

    No spare o-rings or rear rubber switch covers.

    No holster.

    No hole for lanyard.

    No instructions.
    Last edited by ernsanada; 04-25-2009 at 05:58 PM. Reason: added info and add pics

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    Erns, Excellent review as always.

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    Default Re: Solarforce T4 Full Kit Review

    Quote Originally Posted by ernsanada View Post
    Cons

    Headlamp does not work.

    Lantern does not fit.
    Enough said.

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    The switch on the headlamp is bad. I got it to work once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erlon View Post
    Enough said.

    That's enough to steer me away.
    Take care

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1996alnl View Post
    That's enough to steer me away.
    Lets not jump to rash decisions here, it's a simple fact that Erns got a bad one. It happens and I don't think that should reflect on the general quality of Solarforce products (which for me has been damn good so far especially considering how inexpensive their products usually are). Even with Erns' first review of the Tiablo A10, he got a lemon light engine module. So you know even the other good companies have defects/DOA stuff here and there.

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    ersanada I'll let Solarforce know of these issues asap.

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    Ace0001a brings up a good point here, any and all companies (including peoples beloved, Surefire) can and will have defective products and equipment, there's simply no way around it.
    All of that said, even assuming everything in the package worked perfectly, is there any real reason to buy this light over the L2 mini or the Full size L2? Especially, when one considers the price difference. I mean, I like that it is type III HA, but why not just offer some L2 and L2 mini bodies and switches in HA?

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    Jimdo you bring up a good point. Solarforce is a great company and I'm sure they try their hardest. HA L2s and L2ms would be great. For me, the L2m isn't that great for EDC. I switch off between my L2m and my Eagletac P10C. The Eagletac being slimmer rides better in my pocket. I think what Solarforce is trying to do is fill this niche of a high quality, 1 cell slim and sleek light. I'll have a little chat with Solarforce
    Last edited by jake25; 04-25-2009 at 01:35 AM.

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    T4 and the 2xAA looks cool (although I don't like the italics name). It's a pity headlamp and lantern don't work. Apparently, they need to buck up on their QC if they were to compete with Fenix, Nitecore and Jetbeam. Having said that, I've not heard of failed L2 or L2M. So, it's probably a teething problem.

    Thanks, Ern. Great review, but I miss your garden shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by ace0001a View Post
    Lets not jump to rash decisions here, it's a simple fact that Erns got a bad one. It happens and I don't think that should reflect on the general quality of Solarforce products (which for me has been damn good so far especially considering how inexpensive their products usually are). Even with Erns' first review of the Tiablo A10, he got a lemon light engine module. So you know even the other good companies have defects/DOA stuff here and there.
    Fair enough..
    Take care

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    I have previous model Solarforce F4. You had to unscrew front part of the head to fit in the lantern adapter. Can you take a picture of the bottom of the lantern?

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    i got the lantern...

    the bezel , see if u can remove the strike from the bezel, then it will fit.

    if not u need a removable bezel head from solarforce then.

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    I finally figured out how the Lantern connects to the T4. The lens bezel assembly does come off. To remove the lens bezel assembly you unscrew clockwise, opposite of the usual clockwise to unscrew.

    I will fix post #1 with the corrected information.








    Now the only issue I have is the bad headlamp.

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    Great review! I like the size of the light, I'm sure the AA option will appeal to a lot of people (not me though), and I love the lantern. One thing I'm really not sure about is the headlamp. It looks really bulky, and I think it'd be easier to carry around a complete, more compact headlamp.
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    The T4 definetely looks awesome, it's a pity it hasn't been released in grey/natural HA .
    I am considering getting one. Those issues with the lantern and headlamp, solved now, don't affect me at all as I am planning to buy the cheapest version - CR123 and 2AA body tube -
    Like with my ROMISEN RC-N3 I will use only the CR123 format

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    glad u got a lantern now!

    the cree will actually warm up kinda fast if u really put it to use.

    what i did was, i got a SF p60L, replace the bulb, although not as bright but it managed to run overnight in my room.

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    Lantern beam shot.



    Added this picture in first post.

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    Zeruel,
    Interesting that you should bring up the lack of 'failed' L2's , I have sold just over 400 L2's and have just recently had the first one with any problems come back to me. It seems that the R2 LED just stopped working on it.
    Now, I am not saying that there haven't been others that I have sold that have stopped working, all I can say is that I attend many of the same shows and have a full time storefront that many of the same repeat customers come back and see me at and this is the first and only one that has been brought to my attention. Many customers buy one and will come back and buy more, if these people were having problems with the light, they wouldn't be buying more.
    Those are some pretty darn good stats.... a 1 in 400 failure rate is certainly not too hard to live with.

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    No company produces 100% perfect output, especially with brand new product introductions. Including Mercedes, BMW, Surefire, et al!

    Solarforce has clearly demonstrated with their L2 and L2m lines that they are determined, serious players building serious quality flashlights! I say give them a little time to get this thing dialed-in and it will be S-W-E-E-T in a variety of packaging/finish options!

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    Default Re: Solarforce T4 Full Kit Review

    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    No company produces 100% perfect output, especially with brand new product introductions. Including Mercedes, BMW, Surefire, et al!

    Solarforce has clearly demonstrated with their L2 and L2m lines that they are determined, serious players building serious quality flashlights! I say give them a little time to get this thing dialed-in and it will be S-W-E-E-T in a variety of packaging/finish options!
    Agreed on that. The kit look awesome but i dont like the headlamp .
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    DHART,
    Packaging is certainly one field that they aren't doing so well in, I wish beyond wish that they would put the product out in a 'box' similar to Olight, Fenix, Surefire, etc.
    But alas, they do not...
    Maybe someday.

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    With the amazing low price for the L2, if giving up a fancy box is the cost and the light still arrives undamaged, I can easily forgo packaging which is likely discarded and unneeded once you get the product anyway. Olight, Fenix, Surefire charge a LOT more money which easily covers their cost of more expensive packaging. I'd prefer Solarforce focus on keeping their quality high, pricing low, and skip fancy packaging.

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    Agreed. My L2's came in the holster which I feel protected them as well as any fancy packaging - and is a useful accessory as well. When you consider that $25 (inclusive of shipping) gets you a really well built light, a useable 18650 battery and a holster, I feel that they are a best buy in this category.

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    Default Re: Solarforce T4 Full Kit Review

    Reminds me of the Sterops 4 in 1 light.

    Either way, nice light and Thanks for the review!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner12 View Post
    Reminds me of the Sterops 4 in 1 light.
    Oh yeah! There's definately more than a passing resemblance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner12 View Post
    Reminds me of the Sterops 4 in 1 light.

    Either way, nice light and Thanks for the review!
    Older Solarforce F4 looked exactly the same as Sterops. Both are probably made by some OEM manufacturer.

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    Default Re: Solarforce T4 Full Kit Review

    That looks like a great setup/combo. I wouldn't mind getting one of those later on.

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    That single cell body is too much of a copy to a SureFire E1X body.

    I know they are not the first ones to do it, but its a shame they cant be more original. They are developing a really big following here, they should be able to create unique lights for the masses.

    Thanks for the review
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    Alot of people like the surefire style but the price and the output(I know about real lumens) just dont match with what else is available.

    Just about everything great is copied or imitation is the best form of flattery (Or something like that.)

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