I know that Princeton Tec (PT) does not keep up with the absolute newest LED's on the market. But I feel that the products PT puts out are very high quality. In a way, I feel like they are of the same quality that Surefire puts out, just in polymer bodies instead of HAIII. I think alot of people overlook PT products because they are not very "tacticle" like everyone likes around here. As an outdoor junkie, PT lights and headlamps are the best as they are lightweight, durable, and bright. Ive never wished one of my PT lights was brighter in any situation.