Group buy for the Dorcy "Spyder"

Group buy for the Dorcy \"Spyder\"

EDIT - I've moved the original test data compiled on the Spyder to a new thread with the original title and have re-titled this thread so the group buy on the Spyders can move forward. I'm on a dial-up connection and can no longer keep up here /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif sorry..

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Wow what a deal! You guys just keep finding ways to tempt me. You know my dad was interested in a membership to Costco for fathers day. I think I may have to make a trip...

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This does look like an excellent glove box light. I wouldn't pay any attention to the hyped lumen rating--is there any hint (advertised or observed) of the battery runtime?

It's interesting they're including four Duracell 123's in that $23.99 package. Duracell must have lowered its prices to match other manufacturers.

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My aunt has a CostCo card, might have to take her to lunch tomorrow. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Slick,

Nice report. Thanks. I think the 4.8 means 4.8 volts, which is about 10% under the voltage that 2 fresh 123s would be drawn down to with the 1.22 amp load. That means overdriven. Nice. That's 5.8 watts consumed. If the bulb is running at a fairly high temperature, it could be putting out about 80 to 90 lumens. But 120 lumens seems inflated. The bulb life might be short.

Nonetheless, I certainly am tempted by this light. My only concerns would be the ruggedness of the tailswitch and the cost of replacement bulbs.

Paul

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Although it is always nice to be able to get replacement bulbs (good for the environment etc.), these lights actually cost about the same as Surefire replacement bulbs for the E-series. When you factor in the 'free' 123's, they are probably cheaper.

Now don't get me wrong, I am not saying these are in any way superiour to the Surefire. I am just saying I wouldn't let the potential cost of replacement bulbs keep me from buying them.

Pat

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Cool...I may have to run to that hell-hole Costco on Saturday...

Seems lots of manufacturers are hoping on the CR-123 light bandwagon.

--dan

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is that available in Australia ? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif

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Wowzers..

That's a deal!

hmmm...guess I'll have to stop buy the 'ol "price club".

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kalengkong,
try k-mart.

Vince.

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I just got back from Costco near my house in St. Louis..
They don't have these lights yet. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mecry.gif

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No luck here near me in Merrillville, IN either. I'll keep checking...

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I saw some in Irving, TX. a couple weeks ago . I didn't grap one
because I don't know to get a spare bulb from Dorcy. I don't see anything about this flashlight from Dorcy website. Just want to see the spec.

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Paul W:

Why do you think that the 4.8 C 1.22 A bulb will be overdriven on 2 @ 123's? It would seem more likely to be underdriven given Brock's measurements:

SF e2 5.0 V 1.0 A
SF P60 4.8 V 1.1 A
Scorpion 4.8 V 1.1 A
Pelican M6 4.65 V 1.22 A

If it's not underdriven, that would suggest that Dorcy's switching system offers less resistance that the above. I perceive that to be unlikely.

I'm interested in buying a pair.

I wonder if Dorcy uses the same bulb as the M6.

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Slick,

Can you check to see if per chance, the heads are interchangeable between the Spyder and the E2E? (I'm really wondering if a SF KL1 head would fit the Spyder).

Phil

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Hurray for Dorcy!!! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
(Too bad they had to put the overused word "Tactical" on the package.) Guess I'll be keeping an eye open for them at China-Mart.

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lemlux,

I don't know why Brock's measurements would be so different from mine. On the E2e, I got 5.45v & 1.11A vice his 5.0v & 1.0A. On the Scorpion, I got 5.30v & 1.21A vice his 4.8v & 1.1A. So, my projections of voltage drop with increasing current are different.

Perhaps meter error has something to do with it. More likely, there is a difference in assumptions. I use only brand-new batteries when testing. Hence my conclusions assume fresh batteries and give worst-case overdrive. I design configurations to give me about 10% overdrive. Brock may do it differently. If there's a standard as to how it should be done, I'll follow it, but I don't know about any such standard.

My concern about the Dorcy bulb life is not severe. After all, I have a Scorpion, which rates their bulb life at 5 battery changes. To me, that is acceptable to get more brightness. But getting a bulb for a newly introduced light could be a hassle. So using an M6 bulb looks interesting. The ratings are about the same. I wonder if the physical dimensions are the same.

Paul