Surefire 6P / Malkoff M60F Flood

I've read and read...this thread was one of the most useful:

https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/200801

But, there are new circumstances. There are 'sales' going on that would allow me to build a 6P/M60F for $90 plus shipping. In other threads you can see my recent fascination with Surefire:

Here and here

And my favorite...

Everything I have is a testament to my fascination with throw, but I really could use a light with a good flood. I know there are better choices, but for the money this seems like a potent Surefire/Malkoff combo that also has, yes, I'll admit it, a bit of panache and coolness.....

What do you think? Is this a good price/choice for a high quality portable flood? For lighting up a room and a large area on the morning dog walks?

I'm hopeless......

WF or WLF :twothumbs

Sgt. LED said:

WF or WLF :twothumbs

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This is the one on sale for $45 - LAPolicegear has the 6P on sale for $45 also.

http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m60f-20-degree-flood-p-22.html

Is this the warm version? Still enough of a newbie that I'm not sure I could tell....

Thanks for the response!!

Warm M60: 1 1/2 hour runtime @ 170 lumens, available at regular price right now.

Warm M60L: 4 1/2 hours runtime @100 lumens, sold out at regular price right now.

Warm M60WF: Same stats as warm M60 but with a nice wide & floody beam, on sale and available right now.

You have linked the regular tint version which isn't bad at all especially at that price but I prefer the more natural look of the W variants outside on the greens and browns of nature. As long as it's a Malkoff you can hardly go wrong with any model.

Thanks - huge help and I appreciate it. And these will tolerate the RCR123 batteries, yes? Are 3.7Vs okay, or do I need to stick to a 3V? Or should I just stay with the primaries?

Again, I appreciate the help. I'm stepping into new territory and it seems like I can't, as you say, go wrong at these prices.

run4jc said:

Thanks - huge help and I appreciate it. And these will tolerate the RCR123 batteries, yes? Are 3.7Vs okay, or do I need to stick to a 3V? Or should I just stay with the primaries?

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M60's will take 9V, so two 3.7v RCR's should be fine.

Excellent set-up, especially for the price! i wish this set-up woulda been my first...then I wouldn't have wasted so much money on other non-sf/malkoff products.

But you don't regret it I'm sure

angelofwar said:

I wish this set-up woulda been my first...then I wouldn't have wasted so much money on other non-sf/malkoff products.

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:twothumbs

As an update, I did order the Surefire 6P (in gunmetal gray - new territory for me!) from LA Policegear - great deal. Also ordered the Malkoff M60F drop in.

Not really sure why - that peculiar feeling came over me and,

I ordered it! But glad I did. After reading through some of the thousands of posts on the forum, it appears that the 6P/M60 is a 'classic' and one that belongs in a flashaholic's collection, right? Now I just need to pick up some RCRs - or is there a better rechargeable since the Malkoff can take up to 9V?

Anybody?

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run4jc said:

After reading through some of the thousands of posts on the forum, it appears that the 6P/M60 is a 'classic' and one that belongs in a flashaholic's collection, right? Now I just need to pick up some RCRs - or is there a better rechargeable since the Malkoff can take up to 9V?

Anybody?

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That combination is rated for 90 minutes regulated runtime with 123 primaries, but that's for continuous use.

My personal experience with it (frequent usage but mostly less than a few minutes at a time, a few 30 minute runs to test for heat) had to be well over 2 hours though, MAYBE even 3 hours.

So for runtime I wouldn't split hairs between types of rechargeables based on voltages - really if I wanted to seek more voltage for runtime I'd be looking into a 3 cell host... (assuming you're planning on using RCR123 size cells that is)

angelofwar said:

Excellent set-up, especially for the price! i wish this set-up woulda been my first...then I wouldn't have wasted so much money on other non-sf/malkoff products.

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+1!

Very well said.

DimeRazorback said:

But you don't regret it I'm sure

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Not much...I sold all my other lights i wasted my money on, and bought surefires with all of it!!!

angelofwar said:

Not much...I sold all my other lights i wasted my money on, and bought surefires with all of it!!!

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I tried doing that, the problem is that non-SureFire lights ain't worth crap when you want to sell them... LOL!!

run4jc said:

Now I just need to pick up some RCRs - or is there a better rechargeable since the Malkoff can take up to 9V?

Anybody?

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You might find the battery and drop in summaries of use here (see Buyers Guide), including runtime examples:



Keep in mind, 17500's can be substituted for 18500's and 17670's can be substituted for 18650's

Dude Dudeson said:

That combination is rated for 90 minutes regulated runtime with 123 primaries, but that's for continuous use.

My personal experience with it (frequent usage but mostly less than a few minutes at a time, a few 30 minute runs to test for heat) had to be well over 2 hours though, MAYBE even 3 hours.

So for runtime I wouldn't split hairs between types of rechargeables based on voltages - really if I wanted to seek more voltage for runtime I'd be looking into a 3 cell host... (assuming you're planning on using RCR123 size cells that is)

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I expect that the longest run between charges would be 30-40 minutes, and that would not be continuous. I'm just looking to save a buck or two on batteries over time - having said that, I'm yet to change my first battery on my LX2 or my E1B....

run4jc said:

I expect that the longest run between charges would be 30-40 minutes, and that would not be continuous. I'm just looking to save a buck or two on batteries over time - having said that, I'm yet to change my first battery on my LX2 or my E1B....

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I'd run a set of primaries to the death and go from there.

It took me over a month to drain a pair in my 6P/M60, and that was with quite a bit of unnecessary use (playing with my new toy).

I figure I'll probably get 6 months a set from here on out - of course this light is not my EDC either, it gets carried a lot but it's not usually the first light I go for in actual use.

run4jc,

Without a question, Malkoff makes one of the best (if not the best) P60 dropins. I have an M60WL (warm and low) on my Surefire C2 and I can't compliment it enough. You do have an option regarding to other drop ins. One of our fine member, "nailbender" is currently providing a host of P60 drop in options Nailbender Drop ins). I just purchased a Diamond Dragon P60 drop in from him and I should receive it in a couple of days. You also have various manufacturers making drops in as well: List of P60 Drop ins.

Regarding to the host, I love my Surefire C2. In fact, I just purchased another C2 this week :twothumbs. However, you have to realize that Surefire is probably going to be the most expensive route. I purchased a C2 from CPFM from another member, and this is what it will cost me altogether:

1. Surefire C2-HA - $75 (MSRP: $122)
2. Surefire Z58 Tailcap - $30 (MSRP: $42) - I prefer clickies than twisties
3. Malkoff Drop in - $55
4. Boring service so my C2 could accept 18650 Batteries - $19
5. UCL Lens - $6.25
6. Titanium Bezel -$28

Total Cost: $213.25

I know I am paying for a lot more for the Surefire C2 than I would have if I had chosen another host, but I love the Surefire C2 and it's worth it to me. Take a look at this thread, there are a bunch of other hosts that you could consider: P60 Compatible Hosts.

I just wanted to provide you with additional options. Hope this helps. :wave:

Sgt. LED said:

WF or WLF :twothumbs

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Is the WF way more noticeable in brightness or is it negligible.
Just wondering if the WLF trade off in brightness is worth the increased runtime of about 250% (if my math is correct. Maybe I better ask a 5th grader).

Thanks.