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    Default TK20 long term owners

    There's a lot of old reviews on the TK20 (most are 2008 dates) but I'm looking for input from LONG TERM TK20 owners.

    Impulse buyers who just recently bought the light or ones that had the light for such a short period of time that the novelty hasn't worn off need not reply. I'm looking to get this as a present for someone that spends a lot of times outdoors and have had some exposure to LED lights (M@g) but is not yet a true flashaholic because "LED lights have such a harsh blue tint to them" preconception based on a single M@g purchase.

    So, for you loyal or hardcore TK20 owners, let's hear why you've kept this light in your collection.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    I bought it specifically for it's durability, tint, and throw.

    To the first aspect, I encourage you to view all the posts I've made in this thread:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=219738

    Definitely tough as nails.

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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    I bought it specifically for it's durability, tint, and throw.

    To the first aspect, I encourage you to view all the posts I've made in this thread:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=219738

    Definitely tough as nails.
    Dude, that's the kind of stuff I'm looking for How long have you had yours?

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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    Throw is amazing for an AA light and the color is great for outdoor walks.

    I've had it in my collection since it first came out.

    My only disappointment is they never came out with grips of other colors.

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    +1 on what Marduke posted. Hope they will maintain the built quality when they update this model.
    Been using it almost daily for night walk since got it ~6 months ago. Very tough!!! The anodizing has chip-off in multiple places and I once cracked a floor tile by accidentally drop it (and got nagged for a few days). It's still running strong.
    The only 2 issues I have is when using rechargeables (and running on turbo), I don't get diminishing output, instead, the output will just drop to a very dim level (<5 lumens?) when battery is low, the other issue is the annoying hissing (high pitch) noise when running on turbo (but my 2nd TK20 has less noise ).

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    I take my chances of posting my reasons for NOT choosing to live with this light...

    I gave one to my brother, and I'm quite sure he's very happy with it. A little premature to ask him, though... he's only had it for 2 months, and one of those months is with hardly any dark hours at all...


    Having tested the light for a week on a camping trip before I gave it to him, I judge my neutral quark to be far superior because it is so much smaller and lighter. The TK20 is a great light, and I'm sure I would be quite satisfied using it - exept I would not use it, I would always pick something smaller and lighter. The quarks or fenix LD-series (wish L2D was available in neutral tint, but then quark came along) are just soooo much handier to slide into a pocket. So at my place, the TK20 would be a shelf queen, a lone-away light or a bump-in-the-night light. It would not be with me outdoors camping, cycling or skiing. It certainly would not be my EDC light.


    So - if you haven't tried any other 2*AA lights and how much better they slip into a pocket - or if this isn't important to you, you will be perfectly happy with the TK20. All other aspects of the TK20 are outstanding.
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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    for a 2xAA, it certainly is bulky
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    Quote Originally Posted by jankj View Post
    Having tested the light for a week on a camping trip before I gave it to him, I judge my neutral quark to be far superior because it is so much smaller and lighter. The TK20 is a great light, and I'm sure I would be quite satisfied using it - exept I would not use it, I would always pick something smaller and lighter. The quarks or fenix LD-series (wish L2D was available in neutral tint, but then quark came along) are just soooo much handier to slide into a pocket. So at my place, the TK20 would be a shelf queen, a lone-away light or a bump-in-the-night light. It would not be with me outdoors camping, cycling or skiing. It certainly would not be my EDC light.

    So - if you haven't tried any other 2*AA lights and how much better they slip into a pocket - or if this isn't important to you, you will be perfectly happy with the TK20. All other aspects of the TK20 are outstanding.
    I agree the TK20 is not exactly pocket material, but you have to take 2 things into account here:
    - it throws farther;
    - it is far sturdier than most other 2AA lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apontes View Post
    I agree the TK20 is not exactly pocket material, but you have to take 2 things into account here:
    - it throws farther;
    - it is far sturdier than most other 2AA lights.
    I'm not forgetting anything, like I said, all other aspects of TK20 is outstanding. I'm telling you what's the deal breaker for MY use of TK20, which is kind of sad, because I really like this sturdy little bugger.


    As for throw, yes, but with some caveats. I am very curious to see or hear of a real life evaluation of quark neutral tint and tk20. I would expect that the TK20 wins, but I would expect the margin to be smaller than most flashaholics appreciate. (Such as: At what distance can you make out the individual trees in that cluster?). I did with LD20, and was surprised how little difference it actually made. (20-50 meters, depending on what I shined it on).


    As for sturdy, this level of sturdiness is a giant overkill for my use of lights. I've tried to beat fenix LD10 and LD20 to death for a couple of years, and they just keep on shining...

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    I agree, it DOES throw further than other lights, but you pay for it through its significantly larger size. You can just get a 2xCR123 or 1x18650 which will do an even better job.

    In terms of toughness, maybe i have a low threshold requirement myself, but realistically, I can't see how much of an advantage it practically would be over say compared to the L2D

    Quote Originally Posted by apontes View Post
    I agree the TK20 is not exactly pocket material, but you have to take 2 things into account here:
    - it throws farther;
    - it is far sturdier than most other 2AA lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by berry580 View Post
    You can just get a 2xCR123 or 1x18650 which will do an even better job.
    True, but as a gift it's best to stay with AA's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jankj View Post
    As for sturdy, this level of sturdiness is a giant overkill for my use of lights.
    Quote Originally Posted by berry580 View Post
    I agree, it DOES throw further than other lights, but you pay for it through its significantly larger size. You can just get a 2xCR123 or 1x18650 which will do an even better job.

    In terms of toughness, maybe i have a low threshold requirement myself, but realistically, I can't see how much of an advantage it practically would be over say compared to the L2D
    I agree with both you guys. I gave away mine for the same reasons. I too prefer 18650 lights.

    What I said was for the OP's benefit, so he could take sturdiness and throw into consideration and balance that against size, in order to make an informed decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by berry580 View Post
    In terms of toughness, maybe i have a low threshold requirement myself, but realistically, I can't see how much of an advantage it practically would be over say compared to the L2D
    Not to belittle the L2D in any way, but I've done things to my TK20 that would have bent the L2D in half...

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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    I still have and use my TK20, which I bought last year.

    It is truly a very tough light. In February the southeast of the UK had record snowfall and a lot of ice. One night I fell over on ice into the middle of the road at the top of steep a hill - and I broke my fall using the TK20 instinctively which I was using to light my way. The light stopped me from breaking my wrist (as I had my hand in a hammerfist position rather than flat out) and stopped me sliding all the way down the hill! Was it damaged? No! Just a slight chip to the anodising on the bezel. I did wince when I realised I'd smashed my expensive Fenix into the ground, but I was glad I didn't hurt myself and the light barely got any damage. True story.

    Again, one very tough light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jankj View Post
    I take my chances of posting my reasons for NOT choosing to live with this light...
    Con's well as pros are welcome. Thanks all.

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    I have had my TK20 for around.. 12 months i think, not really sure.

    Anyway, I love it, and out of all my torches its always the one I recommend other (non flashos) buy. (infact I have managed to convince 3 of my friends to buy a TK20!!)

    Its a terrific torch I think.

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    Owned a TK20 for about 1 year so far, and out of all the Fenix lights I've bought (L1D/L2D, P2D, E01, L0D, TK11R2) the TK20 is the one I would keep if I had to pick just one.

    Best build quality of the bunch (not counting the slipping rubber grip, which is easily fixed). The threads are very good, everything feels very well made. Easy change between turbo and general mode due to the knurling on the head. Easy resupply for batteries, and even runs well on alkaline if need be (somebody got 1/2 hour on turbo; I'd expect 4+ hours on general, but haven't tried this before).

    For me it's just one of those lights that feels good and hits the sweet spot, if you know what I mean. And sometimes having a bit larger light is a good thing, especially if you've got big hands. Feels like there's something more substantial to hold onto.

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    I'd love to hear the story. And i believe many here would be as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    Not to belittle the L2D in any way, but I've done things to my TK20 that would have bent the L2D in half...
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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    Not to belittle the L2D in any way, but I've done things to my TK20 that would have bent the L2D in half...
    and thats mild compared to what you did to your T1



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    If some friend who needs a light for working outdoors ask me about what to get, I whould recomend him a TK20. It is big and heavy compared with the other premium lights we are used to, but the unenlightened is used to the 2D format, so no much diference. Keep in mind too that most people use the flashlight as a tool, without caring about drops, chips, maintenance, etc The TK20 is tough enough to resist the typical beating most tools end getting.

    Of course, if the guy works in an office and want a light to EDC or have a drawer just in case of a blackout, the TK20 is a no no. The same if it is for camping, backpacking, etc where the size and weight counts a lot.

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    Oh, what happened?

    The worst that's happened to any of my flashlight is falling head-first onto my weights.
    Luck it was only my Regal EDC (cheap from DX), but i still loved it and the lens cracked.. =(
    Quote Originally Posted by Crenshaw View Post
    and thats mild compared to what you did to your T1



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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    Search YouTube for "will it crush fenix T1"

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    Quote Originally Posted by vali View Post
    Of course, if the guy works in an office and want a light to EDC or have a drawer just in case of a blackout, the TK20 is a no no.
    I keep mine in my desk drawer at work. It's big enough to find in the dark and has a high-viz yellow grip. It's perfect for blackout duty.

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    oh that, i watched it months (?) ago.

    Under any "normal" useage, I can't see how anyone would apply THAT much force solely onto a flashlight.
    You'll have to get a car to sit on top of it with a single wheel to apply that much force on the flashlight. The video proves nothing much other than the light's sturdiness is beyond ANYONE's needs.

    And again, I still stand by "I don't see what's the practical advantage of TK20's added toughness have over, say a L2D."
    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    Search YouTube for "will it crush fenix T1"
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    Default Re: TK20 long term owners

    Yes, the TK20 is bulky compared to an L2D or PD30, but when it comes to shining light it can't be compared with EDC sized lights especially for throw. I still carry it for camping to go hiking at night, even though most of the time I'll use something milder (quark neutral) to keep my night vision alive. I can't talk about drop tests since I've been lucky enough so far not to drop any of my lights except the TK40, who barely has a scratch, but it is strongly built, no doubt about that.

    I did some comparisons last weekend with a Quark AA2 neutral and an L2d cool and these don't come even close in throw or brightness... yep, lumen is a relative factor... My TK11R2 was indisputably brighter with a little more throw and even then, I prefer the TK20 for color rendition.
    Mind you that you're asking this question in a place where guys like me who carry both a TK20 and TK11 on top of 2 quarks and a head lamp just for fun will answer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by berry580 View Post
    oh that, i watched it months (?) ago.

    Under any "normal" useage, I can't see how anyone would apply THAT much force solely onto a flashlight.
    You'll have to get a car to sit on top of it with a single wheel to apply that much force on the flashlight. The video proves nothing much other than the light's sturdiness is beyond ANYONE's needs.

    And again, I still stand by "I don't see what's the practical advantage of TK20's added toughness have over, say a L2D."
    Well, under my "normal usage" of the TK20, I still stand by my statement in post 13. There is no other light in production which could match my needs.

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    Yes, and I'm (we're?) still waiting for your story.



    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    Well, under my "normal usage" of the TK20, I still stand by my statement in post 13. There is no other light in production which could match my needs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    Not to belittle the L2D in any way, but I've done things to my TK20 that would have bent the L2D in half...
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    There is no "story", just how I use it. It has been used to break falls, assist for use in handholds, as a counterweight on the end of a tossed handline, rope anchor, speed brake, etc.

    Those "uses" are seperate from normal duty as a flashlight, which includes constant exposure to, and often complete immersion in, mud, water, and sand, falls and scrapes against rocks, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    There is no "story", just how I use it. It has been used to break falls, assist for use in handholds, as a counterweight on the end of a tossed handline, rope anchor, speed brake, etc.

    Those "uses" are seperate from normal duty as a flashlight, which includes constant exposure to, and often complete immersion in, mud, water, and sand, falls and scrapes against rocks, etc.
    And in addition to all of that, I wouldnt need an Abrams tank to pop down the shops to buy a litre of milk, but do i want one?? :P

    Theres something about holding a big thick chuck of aluminum that pushes out 150lm of warm light that is re-assuring when your alone in the dark somehow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AusKipper View Post
    And in addition to all of that, I wouldnt need an Abrams tank to pop down the shops to buy a litre of milk, but do i want one?? :P

    Theres something about holding a big thick chuck of aluminum that pushes out 150lm of warm light that is re-assuring when your alone in the dark somehow...
    You forget wet, cold, tired, and a mile back a dark hole in the ground with 500ft of rock above your head.

    But yeah, something like that...

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