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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn7 View Post
    give me 3-4 months and I will be on here with at least a 4300 lumens OTF single led beast (I predict )
    Wow! Thats quite the prediction there Glenn. Had your ear to the ground eh? That is certainly not impossible but it will be a heady task to be sure. Not too many LEDs that can put out that kind of output just yet while still being collimated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn7 View Post
    Glenn7, I share your optimism about the future of leds as you know, considering my username.

    However I can't resist asking you why you are purchasing the 3 X MCE Howitzer (1600 lumens max)
    if you are so convinced that you will have a single led light capable of putting out 4300 lumens OTF soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by easilyled View Post
    Glenn7, I share your optimism about the future of leds as you know, considering my username.

    However I can't resist asking you why you are purchasing the 3 X MCE Howitzer (1600 lumens max)
    if you are so convinced that you will have a single led light capable of putting out 4300 lumens OTF soon?
    Thats easy to answer - cant help myself - and the Howitzer was on the table first and its a good price IMO and I think I can sell it quite easily if I don't want it - and because I can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn7 View Post
    Thats easy to answer - cant help myself - and the Howitzer was on the table first and its a good price IMO and I think I can sell it quite easily if I don't want it - and because I can
    Fair enough. I just hope you're right about the 4300 lumen light.
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    The simple answer is yes, a flashlight using the most efficient illumination source, "bulb", will produce the most output. The real question is one of output per other factors, most people are not really, "really" concerned about what is brightest, they always mean within whatever budget or size/weight they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn7 View Post
    give me 3-4 months and I will be on here with at least a 4300 lumens OTF single led beast (I predict )
    Hey Glenn have you managed to get your hands on that light yet?

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    If there is, I'd say it's running on a CSM-360. Of course, the power and heatsinking requirements.
    Finning does help dissipate heat. This is why the fins are removed before cooking fish. Otherwise it will throw off the heat and not reach the proper cooking temperature. --Duglite

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    Quote Originally Posted by saabluster View Post
    Hey Glenn have you managed to get your hands on that light yet?
    Production has been slow due to lack of interest and henths $ to fund it (as it is prepay) - but it will come stand by

    BTW Michael what dastardly things are you working on right now...... share??
    Last edited by Glenn7; 06-26-2010 at 02:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenn7 View Post
    Production has been slow due to lack of interest and henths $ to fund it (as it is prepay) - but it will come stand by
    Sometimes you just have to reach for the stars. If he can at least get a prototype done I'm sure there will be enough people in line to pick up the excess.

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    BTW Michael what dastardly things are you working on right now...... share??
    Glenn even if I told you you wouldn't believe me. In due time.

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    That prepay thread may never materialize

    In the meantime, lifted from here

    SR6000
    The SR6000 will use a Single Luminus CSM-360W with approximately 6500 Lumen output. This primary duty light will use a pair of rechargeable 'M' LiFePO4 38120P (M size) battery at a total of 6.4 volts and 20 amps capacity. Total Length is 17.25 inches, head diameter between 4.0 and 4.75 inches with a 103 mm custom optic used and 1.75 inch diameter battery compartment. More specifications to follow.
    Release August 2010
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    Market feeds manufacturing . . . . . . .

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    As someone mentioned before, surely as efficiency rises, then not only do you get more lumen/watt but also much less heat produced. Therefore by the time we have led's of say 80% efficiency then we will also be able to run them at a higher current than we currently do with the same size heatsink..

    I know this doesn't affect throw unless we can reach a much higher surface brightness, but it does say a lot to me about possibilities for future size to lumen ratio improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saabluster View Post
    Glenn even if I told you you wouldn't believe me. In due time.
    Hmmm secret stuff..... yeah I know if you tell me then you would have to kill me
    I think it might involve more efficient lens's/reflector/colminators come on you know I cant resist new bright stuff

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