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    Hey folks, im new here and seeking your opinions!

    I own a couple of single AA lights (Romisen RC-G2 and Ultrafire C3) that i keep handy at home and in the Car, However I want to carry a light in the side elastic of my Leatherman wave pouch and these are just too big.

    So now im looking for an AAA Light.

    Ive narrowed it down to (due to costing and UK availability):

    ITP A3 Eos (Upgraded) (~£14)
    Streamlight Microlight (~£14)
    Akoray K-102 (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.19768) (£5)

    I can get the ITP and the Streamlight for roughly the same price (enough that makes no difference), However these are nearly 3x MORE Expensive than the Akoray.

    This light is one i will have on me or in my bag, rather than the AAs i currently have. So Run time and Brightness are fairly important But I am only a poor teacher so i guess im asking several questions:


    1. Which is better out of the Microlight and the A3 Eos?
    2. Is the winning light from Question 1 Worth paying 3x as much as the Akoray for?
    3. Are there any other options i should consider that are Reasonably priced (Inc P+P) and available in/to the UK?

    Thanks Guys!

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    have you seen HKJ's AAA review thread?
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=229430
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    To answer your questions,

    1. I like the iTP better since I prefer multi-mode lights. I also carry my AAA lights either on my keychain or in my pocket. Therefore, I prefer smaller lights and the iTP is considerably shorter. I own a couple of the Streamlights, and you wouldn't go wrong with one and considering how you are planning on carrying it, it's not a bad choice.

    2. Hard to say. I have an Akoray as well and haven't had any problems with it. As far as the cheaper DX brands go, the Akorays seam to be a bit more reliable than some of the other cheapies.

    3. Do you want multi-mode of a single mode? Would you prefer a twisty or a clicky interface? What do you consider reasonably priced?

    Personally, I like to pocket carry a multi-mode AAA. Right now, I rotate between a SS Fenix LD01, SS Maratac, and SS iTP EOS (I like the SS lights for pocket carry, can you tell?) Out of these three, the Maratac is my favorite. I can't recommend it for you considering that it is only available from one store and it would be most likely be cost prohibitive to get one across the pond. The iTP is essentially the exact same light (I just prefer the Maratac styling), and I would recommend it over the Fenix since it's cheaper and has a lower low.

    If you want to splurge and expand your price range a fair amount there are a whole range of great lights (Preon, LF2XT, and hopefully the IlluminaTi).

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    Be aware that the K-102 is a large light for AAA batteries. The only real drawback I found on it was the inexistent keychain hole. About 3 hours with a fresh alkaline and around 25 lumen.

    If you end buying it dont forget to apply some lube. You can end ruining one of the orings like I did. Fortunately it had 2 of them there . Unbeatable for the price (if you dont mind the keychain hole).

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    Quote Originally Posted by vali View Post
    Be aware that the K-102 is a large light for AAA batteries. The only real drawback I found on it was the inexistent keychain hole. About 3 hours with a fresh alkaline and around 25 lumen.
    Akoray K-102: 89mm long
    Quark Mini: 76mm long

    And the Quark Mini is an AA light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incidentalist View Post
    Personally, I like to pocket carry a multi-mode AAA. Right now, I rotate between a SS Fenix LD01, SS Maratac, and SS iTP EOS (I like the SS lights for pocket carry, can you tell?) Out of these three, the Maratac is my favorite...

    If you want to splurge and expand your price range a fair amount there are a whole range of great lights (Preon, LF2XT, and hopefully the IlluminaTi).
    +1! I agree 100% with Incidentalist!
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    I have an iTP A3 Upgrade and a Streamlight Microstream, sorry no Akoray (must fix this = flashaholic)

    I have attached the A3 to my security cards and it lives there.
    The Microstream is often in my top pocket like a pen.

    The output on the Microstream is comparable to the iTP on medium with a little bit more throw. Lithium primary livens up the Streamlight a little.
    The runtime at this level is a one horse race, the iTP blows the Streamlight out of the water.

    But those are mere numbers you can work around. The main difference is the forward clicky vs the twisty. I find I use the medium mode the most on the iTP but its useful to have a low for runtime and the surprisingly powerful high.

    The finish on the iTP is better than the Microstream, a thick black coating on the iTP and a thinner mat one on the Streamlight.
    The pocket clips are actually well executed on both of them, unlike some other junk ones I have (LL P3 springs to mind)

    Practically the microstream is used for when I need to see something quickly, one handed and I can decide if its just a short look or click on. Probably ideal for holster carry.
    The iTP is more of a 2 handed affair (can do it with one but not half as easy) that you use when you have a specific task to do.
    Since the iTP is always with me the Streamlight sees a little less use as I usually drop a Leatherman branded L1Tv2 in my pocket. I used to carry the LD10/LGX200 and have the Streamlight as a mini backup but this has changed with the iTP.

    In that price range the other AAA's I have are junk or don't have the same general use functionality. Lenser P3 or E01 for example.

    Output = iTP
    Runtime = iTP
    Finish = iTP
    Operation mode = Streamlight

    An iTP on your keys and a Streamlight in your Leatherman pouch would be a good setup as they each do something really well.
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    Default Re: Which AAA?

    I only have the 3-mode iTP of the three lights listed but for the money it is hard to beat. Come to think of it the light is hard to beat even at any level.

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    Basically im after:

    1xAAA
    Small enough to fit in the side elastic of a Leatherman Pouch/Sleeve (So size/length isnt important as long as it fits in the side elastic)
    Decent battery life
    Decent light output (for its size, for just every day usage) Good Flood/Throw
    Cheapish
    Modes aren't too important i suppose (though would be nice)

    Ideally it would be:
    Black
    Knurled
    Have a clip
    Clicky *** (Prob the most desired feature of my desire, but not necessary list)

    However those are not really that important compared to the actual performance/battery life.

    as for usage the light is going to be taking up the place of my main carry light as i want something that will fit in the leatherman pouch with the rest of the stuff i dont carry in my pockets.

    So on the table at the moment are the:

    ITP A3 Eos (Seems to have beaten out the Streamlight so far)
    Streamlight Microlight
    AKOray K-102

    Any others that people want to throw into the ring?
    Nothing over $20 delivered.
    Last edited by Jetpac; 11-23-2009 at 10:32 AM.

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    Default Re: Which AAA?

    I have a lot of lights, primarily one cell AAA or AA lights, some of them fairly expensive and I still love my 3-mode ITP.

    Get one, carry it for a while, and you'll never get rid of it, even if you buy another 100 lights.

    You're not sold on multiple levels yet, but I believe that like most of us, once you experience what it's like to be able to have a decent amount of power in your pocket, without having to run down your batteries always using it, and also have the ability to go very low when you want to, with the added benefit of incredible run times, you'll be hooked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpac View Post
    Basically im after:

    1xAAA
    Small enough to fit in the side elastic of a Leatherman Pouch/Sleeve (So size/length isnt important as long as it fits in the side elastic)
    Decent battery life
    Decent light output (for its size, for just every day usage) Good Flood/Throw
    Cheapish
    Modes aren't too important i suppose (though would be nice)

    Ideally it would be:
    Black
    Knurled
    Have a clip
    Clicky *** (Prob the most desired feature of my desire, but not necessary list)

    However those are not really that important compared to the actual performance/battery life.

    as for usage the light is going to be taking up the place of my main carry light as i want something that will fit in the leatherman pouch with the rest of the stuff i dont carry in my pockets.

    So on the table at the moment are the:

    ITP A3 Eos (Seems to have beaten out the Streamlight so far)
    Streamlight Microlight
    AKOray K-102

    Any others that people want to throw into the ring?
    Nothing over $20 delivered.

    Forget the Akoray,myself and cheap lights have never had a good relationship,nearly all gone faulty after a couple of months.

    I agree with the poster above who has both Itp and Microstream.I have both as well and his comments are 100% spot on,nothing I could even add as he covered it all.

    I sourced both mine from the US at a better price than buying in the UK.They take roughly about 5 working days to hit your doormat.

    Another nice light to consider is the Ring Brand Cybalite running on one AA cell widely available in the UK,that is a little cutie,like mine a lot.

    CPC in Preston do a high powered single AA cell Pro-Elec running at 120 lumens,just had mine so no user comments so far as I only bought it Friday.

    My next light is going to be the single 123 cell from Romisen from one of the vendors on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnair55 View Post
    Forget the Akoray,myself and cheap lights have never had a good relationship,nearly all gone faulty after a couple of months.

    I agree with the poster above who has both Itp and Microstream.I have both as well and his comments are 100% spot on,nothing I could even add as he covered it all.

    I sourced both mine from the US at a better price than buying in the UK.They take roughly about 5 working days to hit your doormat.

    Another nice light to consider is the Ring Brand Cybalite running on one AA cell widely available in the UK,that is a little cutie,like mine a lot.

    CPC in Preston do a high powered single AA cell Pro-Elec running at 120 lumens,just had mine so no user comments so far as I only bought it Friday.

    My next light is going to be the single 123 cell from Romisen from one of the vendors on here.
    im put off the ITP a little bit by it being a twisty instead of a clicky.. I do love the clickys!

    Ok for sake of argument then i guess its the Microstream vs the A3 Eos

    Which one of these two?

    I Prefer the look of the Microstream and the clicky, but it seems the A3 Eos is the better overall?

    would both fit in the side elastic of the leatherman sheath?

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    I may be the only one here, but I gave away a couple Microstreams and one of them was dead and thrown away within the month.

    Before buying my first decent light, the L0D, I was really hoping for a clicky, but upon getting used to them, I've grown to like only twisty's and lights without standard clicky's, like the D10 and the LF2XT, which are both out of your budget range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    I may be the only one here, but I gave away a couple Microstreams and one of them was dead and thrown away within the month.

    Before buying my first decent light, the L0D, I was really hoping for a clicky, but upon getting used to them, I've grown to like only twisty's and lights without standard clicky's, like the D10 and the LF2XT, which are both out of your budget range.
    Is that a vote for the ITP?

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    How about the Romisen RC-k4?

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    Ive just spotted the Tank007s on DX

    the TK-701 and the TK-703

    How do these two lights stack up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetpac View Post
    Is that a vote for the ITP?
    I love my ITP, and although I got it as a giveaway, have been holding off until I get more of them so I won't have to be without it, even though I carry my LF2XT and EZAAw all the time, with the LF2XT being my all time favorite light, with the possible exception of my Drake and Dracos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcbryan View Post
    How about the Romisen RC-k4?
    Got a bit more info on it?

    Edit: Just realised its 3xAAA not a 1xAAA.. Im after a really tiny light to go in my leatherman sheath along with the leatherman

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    Buy both the ITP and the Microstream.Use my Microstream every day, been a good light this last 2 years.

    The ITP is much smaller but on high it has some lick.

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    IMO, the Tank 007 lights are inferior to even the Akorays as far as quality is concerned.

    Unless you are willing to spend more, get the iTP.

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    Another Streamlight Microstream fan here. I power it with an Energizer E2 lithium battery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parnass View Post
    Another Streamlight Microstream fan here. I power it with an Energizer E2 lithium battery.

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    Another vote for the Maratac or ITP. I think the Maratac has a much nicer body design but personally but both are top values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    Another vote for the Maratac or ITP. I think the Maratac has a much nicer body design but personally be both are top values.
    +1

    I love my Maratacs (and ITPs). The best value, sure. My vote for them.

    But if you finally decide is more important clicky switch and don't mind no-modes, then I suggest you go for the Akoray k-103, instead k-102.

    http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=8418

    (it's sold out at DX)

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    Quote Originally Posted by compasillo View Post
    +1

    I love my Maratacs (and ITPs). The best value, sure. My vote for them.

    But if you finally decide is more important clicky switch and don't mind no-modes, then I suggest you go for the Akoray k-103, instead k-102.

    http://kaidomain.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=8418

    (it's sold out at DX)
    IIRC runtimes in K-103 are less than half of the k-102 but, of course, they are brighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vali View Post
    IIRC runtimes in K-103 are less than half of the k-102 but, of course, they are brighter.
    That's right. The k102 is ok for reading or light your path up to 10-12 m. The k103 has a Cree Q5 with 100 lumens output...

    Another choice not mentioned here is the Tank007 tk-703. It's clicky, small form factor (8 cm), 1 mode, black, knurling, powerful ringless beamshot, very affordable price.

    have a look

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26988

    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26990

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    +1 for the iTP A3 EOS 3 mode. You can even get it in blue and red at Battery Junction ( http://www.batteryjunction.com/itp-a3-eos-upgrade.html). I love it and it is incredibly bright with 10440, if you want to go that route. It is nicely bright with NiMH AAA, though. This makes it quite versatile. I run it it is run on a 10440 and use it primarily on medium, which is as bright as high on NiMH. It is brighter than my old Fenix LOD and brighter than my Nitecore EZCr2 (when on a 10440). The EZCR2 is slightly shorter 63mm v. 67mm, but is wider. Of course, the Nitecore will probably be coming out soon with a XP-G series led too. However, the thinness, size, and versatility (especially the low low for reading and getting around a dark room at night) make it my fav pocket edc (the New Quark Mini 123 is going to be brighter, but the A3 EOS is an amazing value). The original coatings were in natural (mine: it seems impervious to nicks) and black.

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    My vote is for the iTP A3, mainly because of its versatility and (what I perceive to be) a stronger build than the Maratac. The iTP has a more robust keyring attachment point, as stated in a review floating around on CPF somewhere. However, if you like the light to be well knurled, get the Maratac instead. It is also more easily operated with one hand than the iTP. For the record, while I do not own either of these lights, my friends do, and I have played with both of them. Not extensively, of course, but enough to make a fair judgment on them.

    Just thought I should add a little disclaimer.

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    Another +1 for the ITP/Maratac...
    I own a black Maratac AAA, Natural & SS ITP A3.
    The differences between the lights are minimal, but, for keychain attachment, I'd go with the ITP version, because of the way the attachment point on the Maratac is constructed.
    The picture below shows it's a sorty of clip arrangement, which will break after extended rubbing on a split ring.


    The ITP A3 sacrifices it's tailstanding capability for a better attachment point, and comes with a keychain :


    The clip on both lights is the same, but imho not stiff enough to hold it securely very well, that's why I have attached a little clip & chain to my SS A3, to my jacket pocket.

    So it's really a choice of styling and tailstanding-capability.
    The knurled feel of the Maratac is fine, but the lined texture on the ITP's is more pleasant to the touch.
    Both variations can be operated one-handed, imho.
    Last edited by dodge_911; 12-04-2009 at 01:09 PM.

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    I use my ITP A3 Natural without clip or keychain and it will tailstand on the its tiny attachment point just fine; as long as you havn't been drinking too much.

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