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    Hello again, Michael.

    If available, I would love an R2 WH high output model. I would definately be interested in getting in line for one if need be. Please consider this my "I'll take it!" for an R2 high output.

    John

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    Hi! How many amperes is the DEFT R2 WH high output driven at? How may this affect its lifespan? Moreover, how many lumens can it emit versus the regular output R2 WH?

    Update: What is going on with the DEFT order at http://omglumens.com/Order.aspx?ID=DEFT? It is apparently cheaper then ordering at this website.
    Last edited by alvinyhwong; 01-23-2010 at 02:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinyhwong View Post
    Update: What is going on with the DEFT order at http://omglumens.com/Order.aspx?ID=DEFT? It is apparently cheaper then ordering at this website.
    Saabluster mentioned a few times in the enthusiast threads that the OMG website was not current...notice that you will not be able to actually place an order for a $150 DEFT when you click "add to cart". This is currently the official/only source for Michael's creation unless you contact him directly.

    Websites are great, but we already have a multitude of information and discussion about the DEFT here at CPF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinyhwong View Post
    Hi! How many amperes is the DEFT R2 WH high output driven at? How may this affect its lifespan? Moreover, how many lumens can it emit versus the regular output R2 WH?

    Update: What is going on with the DEFT order at http://omglumens.com/Order.aspx?ID=DEFT? It is apparently cheaper then ordering at this website.
    The "high output" driver runs about 1.5-1.6A. The new driver runs at 1.4A. LEDs do not just blow like normal bulbs so don't worry about that. LEDs dim with age and the more power going to them the faster they dim. I do run the LEDs very hard but even still you probably will not be able to use the light enough to see the dip in output as it will take years. Don't worry about it. I have taken step to make sure the LED has enough heatsinking to have a reasonable life span.

    The website is as jsholli says non functional for all but contacting me. It will remain that way until I feel I can fulfill orders as they come in.(as in when I have stock)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinyhwong View Post
    Hi! How many amperes is the DEFT R2 WH high output driven at? How may this affect its lifespan? Moreover, how many lumens can it emit versus the regular output R2 WH?

    Update: What is going on with the DEFT order at http://omglumens.com/Order.aspx?ID=DEFT? It is apparently cheaper then ordering at this website.

    I believe the $150 DEFT is the previous generation, not the updated light being discussed on this thread.

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    I had a Tiablo A9 which was great when it was working however I wanted a bit more from a thrower (that I could afford) and the Deft fits the bill; except that now things are a lot tighter and I will have to wait: hmmmm, maybe I'll have to consider parting with one or two SF's.
    This sure does look sweet.

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    Keeping my eyes out for the DEFT -FTP High Output!!
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    May my order be for the DEFT R2 WH high output please? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvinyhwong View Post
    May my order be for the DEFT R2 WH high output please? Thanks!
    +1

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    I thank you guys for your enthusiasm but the first come first served will start as soon as I officially put them up for sale. I understand if you just want to show your preference just don't consider it as an official place-setter. Thanks. I will go ahead and narrow it down to Thursday afternoon(Dallas time). That should give me enough time to be sure they are completely ready to go. I will send a notification out to those on the email notification list so you don't have to wear out your F5 button on CPF.

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    We still have to wear out our F5 buttons on our emails.

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    dang. I hate formatting computers and having to start from anew. Allot of time spent!

    I have a Dereelight aspheric and Tiablo aspheric and I would be able to compare them, but I have absolutely no funds due to being too generous over the holidays!

    Hoping others will take lots of pictures!

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    how will the DEFT FTP stack up with the dereelight and tiablo aspheric?? anybody have a guess,some better or a lot better???
    Last edited by fhenixlynx; 01-25-2010 at 05:58 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Michael,
    I would like to get in line as a backup for DEFT R2 WH high output please and if they are all gone then I would like a DEFT Q5 WC.


    thanks
    stub

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    Quote Originally Posted by csshih View Post
    dang. I hate formatting computers and having to start from anew. Allot of time spent!

    I have a Dereelight aspheric and Tiablo aspheric and I would be able to compare them, but I have absolutely no funds due to being too generous over the holidays!

    Hoping others will take lots of pictures!
    Craig, what are your thoughts about the tiablo vs. dereelight aspherics? I couldn't find the dereelight on your long distance thread. Is it on a DBS?
    More to the point, when are you lucky (ahem)... gentlemen with an FTP going post some reviewage? I'm looking at you, BolderDave.
    BTW Michael, I think you've really hit this market nail on the head. It's a great way to get into the Flashaholism. Excellent work.
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    fhenixlynx wrote, "how will the DEFT FTP stack up with the dereelight and tiablo aspheric?? . . ."

    Answer (my opinion only):

    I have the DEFT Enthusiast (the last batch made) and I don't think the two latter lights will be in the same class as the FTP. Doing the white wall comparison, the DEFT hot spot is smaller and brighter than the Tiablo. And I do like my Tiablo aspheric.

    Michael, am I correct that you can do minor adjustments with the head to get the emitter in focus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Vapor View Post
    fhenixlynx wrote, "how will the DEFT FTP stack up with the dereelight and tiablo aspheric?? . . ."

    Answer (my opinion only):

    I have the DEFT Enthusiast (the last batch made) and I don't think the two latter lights will be in the same class as the FTP. Doing the white wall comparison, the DEFT hot spot is smaller and brighter than the Tiablo. And I do like my Tiablo aspheric.

    Michael, am I correct that you can do minor adjustments with the head to get the emitter in focus?
    DV how close were your white wall tests? I ask as unless you tested the beam at 30' or more you are not really seeing the "real" beam. Yes you can adjust the focus by screwing the head in or out and playing with the depth of the pre-collimator but again you want it to be in focus when the beam is at 30' or greater not a few feet in front of you. Can you go outside and take some beamshots for us?

    Some educated guessing leads me to believe the DEFT has about three times the lux numbers of the Tiablo or Dereelight aspherics. That said it will not throw three times as far since, if I remember right, you have to have four times the lux to have twice the throw. The DEFT definitely is a different class of thrower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saabluster View Post
    DV how close were your white wall tests? I ask as unless you tested the beam at 30' or more you are not really seeing the "real" beam. Yes you can adjust the focus by screwing the head in or out and playing with the depth of the pre-collimator but again you want it to be in focus when the beam is at 30' or greater not a few feet in front of you.
    +1 on the distance variable

    I adjusted my beam for 30 yards by loosening the head some, but at 100 yards, I had to tighten the head back down to get the beam the tightest [note: the long distance 'setting' was how my DEFT arrived...]

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    Quote Originally Posted by decra View Post
    Craig, what are your thoughts about the tiablo vs. dereelight aspherics? I couldn't find the dereelight on your long distance thread. Is it on a DBS?
    Hey Evatt,
    The aspheric outperforms the tiablo in both quality in throw to me. It doesn't matter if it's on a DBS or a CL1H body.. they're the same except for the labeling (it's the head that is different, but we swap it out for an aspheric head). I have to head to my friend's house sometime. I've been relatively busy.

    I do believe that the DEFT will no doubt outperform both as it has the pre-collimator, and (from what I've seen) has a higher quality optic.

    hope I didn't bring this thread toward the discussion of other lights too much. back to the DEFT FTP!
    quite playing with your lights, I demand more beamshots!

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    Saabluster wrote, "DV how close were your white wall tests? I ask as unless you tested the beam at 30' or more you are not really seeing the "real" beam . . ."

    My house is a 40' x 40' box. The wall I do some of my impromptu tests is up to about 30'. So looks like it meets your minimum distance to see the "real" beam.

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    Sorry for the off topic post but I want to make sure that I can post without an administrator approval. Gearing up for the "race to buy" this afternoon

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    Ok this is it. I have 17 lights in this batch. They are as follows.

    -3 High-output R2 WH Price $249
    on these I will allow you to pick which one you want. There is a cooler white, one with what I would call vanilla tint, and a very warm WH.

    Price on the three below are all $199

    -2 Standard R2 WH

    -4 Q5 WC

    -8 Q3 3A

    The high output R2s are priced higher because the drivers are harder to assemble and they have a proprietary copper core mcpcb. The area under the die is directly soldered to copper. I also tried to use the best of the lenses that I made for these. This is sort of a hybrid between the old model and the new.

    As you guys might have noticed from the pictures in the second post of this thread the Q3 3A gives very little ground to the Q5 and R2. For those that value neutral tints this is a fine choice. There is almost no difference in visibility regardless of the tint bin picked.

    How to order

    Since there are options on this batch it is a little more difficult. Send me an email at "omglumens at g mail dot com" with "DEFT FTP order" in the subject line. In the email you will need to list what you want in the order you want it. If you really want the HO but will take a Q5 then for example put..

    1 HO R2
    2 Q5

    If you only put one option on your list and someone else claims what you wanted first than you will not be receiving a light on this round. The more options you put down the more likely you are to receive a light.

    You also need to provide me with your zip code if you live in the US or, if outside the US, your country so I can calculate shipping. Everything I ship goes via USPS Priority w/ insurance. As always I put the full value of the light on the customs forms and will not under any circumstances do otherwise. That means if you live in a country other than the US you will most likely be obliged to pay a customs fee. Residents of Texas will also be responsible for any state sales tax.

    So the two things the email should contain are what you want and where you live.

    After I have had time to figure out who gets what I will send you an email to let you know what your total is and payment instructions. After I send the return email with the total you have 24 hours to remit payment. The lights are boxed up and ready to go. Shipping will happen Friday if your payment is quick enough. Otherwise it will ship on Monday.



    If more than one person claims a specific light then the one with the earliest time stamp on the email will get it. Note that I will not accept any order through PM on this round as my inbox may not be able to handle it. It must be through email.

    I will try and update the thread as I can to let you know where we stand on availability. Thanks everyone! -Michael

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    I'll take one of the R2 WH high output please


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    Oops, email sent!
    Last edited by Hammer Train; 01-28-2010 at 05:51 PM.

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    email sent [for the vanilla R2 high output]...thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer Train View Post
    I'll take one of the R2 WH high output please

    Email bud. I tried emailing you but it bounced back.

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    email sent
    Choppers

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    Quote Originally Posted by saabluster View Post
    Email bud. I tried emailing you but it bounced back.
    Thanks, just read the post properly - in my haste I didn't read your post fully! I've emailed from my gmail account, I think the one you may have had is the old one Maybe I still got there in time, we'll see...

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    Email sent for a warm high output FTP. Cheers.

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    All three HO R2s are now claimed.

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