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    Default Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Interest Thread:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=255569

    Part 2: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=278902

    Features:

    - P60 Dropin
    - Solid copper slug thermally attached to base
    - Reflector is thermally bonded to base
    - Electronics & leads are fully potted with thermally conductive compound
    - Inner spring is epoxy bonded to driver board
    - Powering an XP-G R5 emitter by a 1.4A, Single stage 7135 board
    - Runs most efficiently with 1x Li-ion (2x123 can be used in emergency situations, 6V max input)
    - Copper strip included for maximum heat transfer from dropin to host body.

    Changes:
    Switched to clear epoxy for inner spring. *Black again, 2nd batch
    Due to the R5 being mounted on a thicker board, the there is more of a hotspot compared to the R4 variant while still retaining spill. (I like this beam pattern better).
    *Dropin modules sent to me had a slightly larger base diameter than my R4 base did, requiring a single coil of the outer spring to be removed (see picture).

    Output:
    MrGman and bigchelis confirmed the R4 variant had 306 OTF lumens & 287 lumens after 3 mins!
    R5's should net ~320 OTF (approximation) with a higher Lux reading.
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=229135

    Due to the nature of the 7135 boards & varying XP-G Vf's, I will not be making any regulation claims. However, XP-G's naturally have a lower Vf (3.3-3.4), and when tested out of 4 modules, still managed to pull an average of ~1.2A from a 18650 with 3.64V. This will vary depending on what 18650 cell is used. In addition, reverse polarity will destroy these boards.



    For this initial run, I will be constructing 17 modules.
    9 Will be going to waitlisted members in the thread,
    8 will be for open purchase.
    Limit one per open purchase! (For now)
    *The reason I left 8 open spots is to give people who either didn't post or were further down the list a chance to snag one.
    Subsequent runs will have fewer open spots & more people on the waitlist getting one. In addition, waitlisted members get their price locked in.






    Purchase List:

    1. MrGman*PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    2. bigchelis*PMed*Paid
    *Shipped!
    3. kyhunter1*Constructing
    *Completed, PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    4. Visible EM Wave*Constructing*Completed, Unable to PM*Paid*Shipped!
    5. Sgt. LED*Constructing*Completed, PMed*No response
    6. mohr (international)*Constructing*Completed, PMed
    7. Alberta-Blue*Constructing*Completed, PMed*Passed
    8. grinsefalle (international)
    *Constructing*Completed, PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    9. Evilpaul2112*Constructing*Completed, PMed*Paid*Shipped!

    OPEN:
    1. Viper715
    *Constructing*Completed, PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    2. pwatcher*Constructing*Completed, PMed*Passed
    3. donn_*Constructing*Completed, PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    4. upsidedownviking*PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    5. supergravy*PMed*No response
    6. russthetoolman*PMed*Paid*Shipped!
    7. flashfiend*Passed
    8. horandy708*PMed*Passed

    If you're not on the list, don't fret. You'll get a chance to get one after
    this first run is done.


    Pricing:
    Modules will be $45 shipped CONUS, for Personal Paypal,
    Anything other than Personal PP, add $1, Insurance, add $2.

    PP addy is:

    DO NOT SEND PP UNLESS ASKED TO.
    I WILL BE PM'ING MEMBERS WHEN THEIR MODULE IS READY.










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    *Thread is subject to change anytime
    Last edited by Anto; 06-20-2010 at 11:29 PM.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Fitting & installing the copper strip.

    Included with the dropin is an oversized copper strip for maximum heat transfer. I have included enough to wrap 2 dropins (for your other LED P60 modules). Below is a guide on how to fit & trim the strip. There are two methods, the latter takes a little more time but will transfer heat better. I suggest you read through both methods first, then start.


    Simple Method

    1. The strip you received should look like the item on the left. Unrolled, it looks like the item on the right. Go ahead and unroll the strip, watch for sharp edges.




    2. Start by pinching one end of the strip against the dropin body.




    3. Roll the strip around the dropin, keeping tension on the strip.



    4. Once the module is wrapped, note where the strip overlaps.




    5. Cut where the strips overlap, you can leave a small gap for fitment.




    6. Pinching the corners of the strip, insert the dropin into the host.




    7. You can verify fitment by pushing down with something flat (book, etc). Take care as to not touch the reflector.



    Done.

    There you have the simple method. The other method involves undercutting the strip and working your way down for the tightest fitment.


    Method for maximum heat transfer


    Certain lights have looser tolerances then others, enabling more of the strip to be fitted. For example, my Solarforce L2 with a inner head diameter of ~22.47mm allows 1 and 1/2 revolutions. Here is the strip for that one:



    Notice that overlap? Now with my Solarforce L2P, the tighter tolerances (~22.32mm) only allow one revolution of the strip to be installed.

    To achieve this, cut the strip slightly thicker (1 2/3 revolutions) and work your way down, trimming bit by bit until you get the tightest fit. In my experience, the Surefire series can only tolerate 1 revolution.
    If your light can take the extra material, it might help to clock the overlap portion to line up between the ends on the dropin spring. See below:



    Note how the worn, overlapping part is sitting in between the ends of the spring.



    A tip: if you can get the dropin into the body with an oversized strip, but can't seem to screw the bezel all the way down, rotate them around and try again. My L2 is weird like that. Not everyone's light is the same, so it might take a few tries.
    Last edited by Anto; 02-25-2010 at 03:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I have been eargerly awaiting the completion of your drop in. It sounds very promising. I will take one. Thank you.
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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I'll take one. thanks!

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    One for me, please.


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    I'll Take One! Thanks!!

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Excellent! I would like one please.

    David

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I also would like one please.
    Thanks
    Russ
    I await your PM to me

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I thought expressing interest on the other thread would put us on the list? Regardless, please place me on the open purchase list. Thank you.
    Last edited by flashfiend; 02-14-2010 at 09:08 PM.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    It does put you on a list, but I left 8 open spots to give people who either didn't post, or were further down the list a chance to snag one.

    One spot left!
    Last edited by Anto; 02-14-2010 at 09:12 PM.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Thank you Anto. Your drop-in looks very promising, can't wait to get it

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Glad to see these ready to go. PM me when you are ready for paypal.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Thank you Anto.

    I'm #4 on the Purchase list. I'm in Toronto, Canada. Pls PM me when it's ready and I'll send PP with the extra shipping cost.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I'll take the last spot

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    How is there even an open list? There were 33 people that said they wanted to buy on the feeler thread? http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=255569

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Quote Originally Posted by kodama View Post
    How is there even an open list? There were 33 people that said they wanted to buy on the feeler thread? http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=255569
    Yeah I kinda had the same question. I was about the 12th person in that thread to state that they wanted one in post 29. I am just glad I got a jump on the sales thread here. I would have been disappointed to miss out.
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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Will there be another signup when this batch is done and the next one is ready?

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Glad to see these R5 drop-ins are finally going out.

    Those who will get one of his drop-ins will notice how much more then weight. That cooper really helps cool things up and the XP-G R4 I tested at 4 minutes over 280 OTF is more than some R5's turn-on lumens.


    I hope to let you guys know what the new R5 does and lets hope it breaks the 325 OTF barrier and over 300 at 3 mintues.
    Surefire 6P with Malkoff M60 simple, bright, efficient.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Looks like Anto will have my module ready shortly . Im anxious to try it out against my new M61, M60, and Modoo triple XPE. With the larger reflector, I think it will easily out throw the M61. Looks like I have a versatile drop in collection going on.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    The order of the list seems to make no sense at all, but I can wait for the next round.
    Will work for lights.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I figured it out...I think.
    Last edited by donn_; 02-20-2010 at 09:26 AM.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    PM'ed members. Next batch is being constructed now.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anto View Post
    4. Visible EM Wave*Constructing*Completed, Unable to PM
    Not sure why 'unable to PM'. My inbox is not full. Anyway, PM sent with contact info.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Got the new Anto drop in yesterday and I am really likeing it so far. It easily out throws my M61, and the beam and tint are really nice. Spill beam is a little narrower than the M61, but not too much. Has a medium sized, tightly focused hotspot. It definitely has alot of throw going on for a xpg module. I would say that throw of the Anto module easily compares close to a TK11. Also, IMO, it is definitely at the 300 lumen OTF standpoint. I look forward to Big C's results with the R5 module. Im glad I got in on this run, it is definetly a keeper.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I've got to take myself off the list. Sorry and Thank you.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Got mine yesterday. It's very well made, very bright and well focused. Thanks Anto.

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Can I have Flashfiend's spot?

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anto View Post
    PM'ed members. Next batch is being constructed now.
    I did not get a PM. Thanks,

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    Fortunately for someone else, I also need to remove myself from the list. Maybe I'll catch a future run - sorry for any inconvenience!

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    Default Re: Anto's fully potted & heatsinked 1.4A XP-G R5 P60 Dropin SALES THREAD.

    I been doing some more testing on the Anto R4 since my R5 replacement is not ready yet....


    If you recall your XP-G R4 in my personal 10.5in IS Sphere did a bit less than in MrGmans 6in Sphere, but overall about the same performance. I re-tested it just now and I got the same OTF readings on my personal sphere:

    No matter the turn-on lumens both my IS Sphere and MrGmans = 280ish at 4 minutes

    1 sec =286.2
    30 sec = 286.9
    1 min= 298.5
    1.5 min = 296.9
    2 min = 292.3
    3 min = 288.5
    4 min = 283.1


    Then I wrapped it with a ton of Arctic Silver 5 because I noticed considerable heatsinking while testing my MC-E and SST-50 drop-ins.

    After the AS5 was applied:

    1 sec =326.9
    30 sec = 310.8
    1 min= 304.6
    1.5 min = 300.8
    2 min = 297.7
    3 min = 294.6
    4 min = 291.5



    Now imagine what will happen when I put the AS5 on the Anto R5 drop-in
    Surefire 6P with Malkoff M60 simple, bright, efficient.

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