LS Nitro

AilSnail

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I wonder what is the absolute overdrive limit for the luxeons. How about pouring a pint of liquid nitrogen, take the led for a swim and find out? Any takers with a sacrifical ls and measuring equipment? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif
 

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Have a look on the ARC forum. Looks like the new Luxeon III (3 watter) is basically a 1 watt LS with better heat management.
 

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Thank you keithr. I haven't seen it, but i think liquid nitrogen is clear as water. It also boils at -196C. It can be had from various medical and industrial sources if you bring a regular thermos (don't close the thermos all shut, because the nitro will vaporize slowly (boil) and create pressure). The nitro would then be poured in a clear glass (take care with thermal tension and cracking of the glass) for the experiment. Maybe an optic or reflector could be glued to the inside of the glass. Connect an adjustable power supply, set up a lux meter and a camera as well as means of measuring electrical power to the LED, and turn up the power slowly until the led is destroyed.

(I'm waiting for my first luxeons from the sandwich shoppe, but I don't have a camera nor any luxmeter. If there is any of the leds I don't like, I'll consider doing the experiment anyway.)

I think it could be interesting to know more about how much gain there could be had from better heat management, and also it could look quite spectacular.
If what kakster says is true, and the 3 watters are specced to 3 watts, then I speculate that at least 5-6 watt should be possible for the regular 1watters in extreme cold. But I have no experience to back it up, though.
 

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I have a LGI that pulls 1.8 Amps from fresh batteries /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif I think 2 Amps is about the limit for the bond wires.

I added a small resistance to tame the current a bit. With .3 ohms the LGI draws 1.2 Amps with fresh NiMH and settles to 1 Amp after a few minutes. I have been using this light freqently for about 9 months. Great for walking the dogs at night.
 

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Interesting to know if the bond wires is the things to go first. These are gold if I understand what you mean by bond wires. They would probably melt, then.
In the lumileds papers they state that the leds will be faster destroyed if exposed to temperatures below -40C.
 
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