What do you guys have to say about the Surefire E2DL?

Hey guys. Before I buy this, I was just wondering what you guys thought about your SF E2DL's. Also, is this waterproof? If so, how deep? Is this to the IPX-8 standard? Thanks guys.

I don't own a E2DL. But I know for sure that if I have the change to drop on it, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I don't own one but I've used one before on CPF night hikes and played around with others lights at meets.

Its a great light, and would not hesitate to get one myself. Tailcap is a bit obtrusive for EDC IMHO, but thats a minor nit pick given its other strengths.

Great beam, nice form. Really lousy UI...

Ohh.... I'm ok with that kind of UI... And thanks guys! I just need to sell the stuff I have up for sale on the marketplace to get the funds, then I can get myself one

Awesome, awesome light. Even better with the LX2 2-way clip.
I too, like the UI. Not the same with the LX2's UI - I like access to constant-low to be easier.
Of course, it would be even better if low-mode was hidden ... psss are you listening Surefire?



I think once you play with it (E2DL) for a while the mode switching is really easy to get used to.

Love mine. I find the UI easy to use and uncomplicated. I actually prefer high first, low second. The only issue I have is with the tailcap. As Kramer hinted at, the crenelations could use some work or removal altogether. My plan is to replace it with a Z61. Buy one!

Don't own one for I already had bought a very (more) expensive light.
Then the LX2 came around the corner and I bought one of those.

What can I say about the E2DL?
It's often compared with the LX2.
Both have 200 SF lumen.
Both are throwers (with enough side spill).
Clicky vs Twisty
The E2DL will probably cut a hole in your pocket if you carry it there and a smaller hole in your wallet.

Prefer the UI of the E2DL. Wish the LX2 came with the same UI.

E2DL: Very nice light, just watch out for the sharp edges of the bezel.

If I could only grab a couple of my lights the E2DL would be one of them. Great throw with wide hotspot and I really like the thin tube E series with that perfect Surefire knurling. I do like it better with the Z61 tailcap though.

Here's what I have to say . . . Surefire's single-stage E2DL heads that were produced in error are better than the two-stage version.

When one of those "error" heads became available slightly used, I grabbed it! Swapped out the head on my inca E2D to get the LED upgrade that I was expecting from Surefire.

Surefire . . . A company who's mistakes are sometimes better than what they intended to make.

As for the beam. Narrow, with plenty of throw; but sidespill is only barely useable at best.

If you can find a single-stage "error" head, grab it!!

KuKu427 said:

Great beam, nice form. Really lousy UI...

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My exact feelings on it.

I got my first E2DL when they were released, and was very impressed with the beam and output. I gave it an honest shot as an EDC for three months. For 'tactical' use (I cringe when I use that word) the UI is indeed lousy, and I would much prefer a single-stage head.

The sharp bezel also tore up every single pair of pants that I carried it in. That issue can be mitigated by using a holster, by for my use, off-side clipped-in-pocket carry is the only way to go for a primary light.

I got an updated 200 lumen version later, and still think it's a good light for certain uses. If someone is trained in PPCT or kubotan use, and isn't using the light in conjunction with a firearm, it can be a very useful tool.

As for water resistance, I've had mine fully submerged (only for a few minutes, just to try it) and it did fine. I would prefer a momentary LOTC in lieu of the clicky if I planned on submerging it a lot.

750.356 said:

My exact feelings on it.

I got my first E2DL when they were released, and was very impressed with the beam and output. I gave it an honest shot as an EDC for three months. For 'tactical' use (I cringe when I use that word) the UI is indeed lousy, and I would much prefer a single-stage head.

The sharp bezel also tore up every single pair of pants that I carried it in. That issue can be mitigated by using a holster, by for my use, off-side clipped-in-pocket carry is the only way to go for a primary light.

got an updated 200 lumen version later, and still think it's a good light for certain uses. If someone is trained in PPCT or kubotan use, and isn't using the light in conjunction with a firearm, it can be a very useful tool.

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hello, is there any different the old one you have 120 i suppose with the new one you got 200 lumens?

Do you see any different???:duh2:

astanapane said:

hello, is there any different the old one you have 120 i suppose with the new one you got 200 lumens?

Do you see any different???:duh2:

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Ceiling bounce I see no difference. Even alternating between both lights, illuminating an oject at distance, I see no difference at all.

My case might not be a represenative example of old vs. new, as I think my old 120 lumen E2DL is a real overachiever (it easily outthrew my Malkoff M60).

750.356 said:

Ceiling bounce I see no difference. Even alternating between both lights, illuminating an oject at distance, I see no difference at all.

My case might not be a represenative example of old vs. new, as I think my old 120 lumen E2DL is a real overachiever (it easily outthrew my Malkoff M60).

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my god:duh2: this seems to be very confusing isnt it?

The e2dl just looks mall-ninja ridiculous in my opinion. I couldn't imagine buying one instead of an LX2. And I think you're right, for either of these lights, single stage is the way to go.

paulr said:

The e2dl just looks mall-ninja ridiculous in my opinion. I couldn't imagine buying one instead of an LX2. And I think you're right, for either of these lights, single stage is the way to go.

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Just my opinion and we all like different type's of UI's but I like the clicky and being able to have the low on the E2Dl is a big plus for me. I can see though why some may not like the the UI I often hit the momentary in hi and then again and it does it's low mode so I have cycle again to get to high mode.

I just use it as a EDC light so it's not a big deal to tap the switch again to get it back on hi. I have the LX2 and appreciate the simple functioning UI but like I said I prefer a clicky so I can tolerate the mode switching issue I only sometimes have to deal with, matter of fact I love the two stage E series so I have grown quite use to it.

I just placed a order for a L4 and I actually wish it was a two stage but maybe after I get it maybe I will form a different opinion on the one or two stage as all my E series I have are the two stage. I also hope the "new" L4 will still be floody enough for it to stand out from my other Surefire light's, but that's for a different discussion all together.

The tailcap on the E2DL is (or was) unique and to criticize it is to miss the whole point of the design, which is that it's a self-defense feature. As I recently recorded on another thread, it means you pretty much have to use SF's holster if you want to use a non-oversized holster, but one of the main reasons I originally bought an E2DL myself is that the protruding tailcap prevents the thing from clicking on accidentally with the tailcap screwed down in the 'ready' position- since I often carry the unit in a pocket where I wouldn't feel it heating up, that seems like a really good feature. The UI is something you get used to quickly and while it's not perfect, nothing is.

astanapane said:

my god:duh2: this seems to be very confusing isnt it?

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Yeah. There are, however, a good amount of people here that claim to see a very noticable difference between the old and new E2DLs.

The whole 'old vs new' output debate is difficult to answer definitively without testing and comparing a decent sized lot of old and updated lights in an IS.

750.356 said:

Yeah. There are, however, a good amount of people here that claim to see a very noticable difference between the old and new E2DLs.

The whole 'old vs new' output debate is difficult to answer definitively without testing and comparing a decent sized lot of old and updated lights in an IS.

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Ok thank you Sir.

I might then place an order from reseller that i'm will be sure for the New 200 lumens version.

The E2DL was my favorite go-to light. (the ex has it now)

I EDC'ed it and all my pants/shorts are intact.
I used it underwater ~6 feet and it performed flawlessly.

I bought a Backup and swapped the tail caps. I think that setup works well.