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    Hi,

    After reading through the numerous posts in the forums, it seems that a lot of flashaholics carry a couple of lights everyday, for fear of being left in the dark suddenly. Do you get power outages and are left in the dark suddenly quite often?

    For me, I don't really have a real power outage for the past 20 years, well, there was once, but it was due to my the mains outside my unit frying, and it only affected by unit. Wasn't really left in the dark, as there was lots of surrounding light coming in. That was the only time I found my LED flashlights to be useful. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    Reason I post this question is because when I purchase some of the high quality lights or try to bring them around with me, people around me usually wonder if I am trying to be funny. They must think I am silly if I try to carry a flashlight wherever I go, and I must be crazy spending so much money on flashlights... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon23.gif[/img]

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    Hey it is good to be prepared, you just never know what might happen or who may ask for a flashlight.

    As far as spending money on both, when in doubt buy 'em both. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I get a power outage at least twice a year here at home when we have bad storms (or someone hits a pole).

    I showed up to a class last semester and the power was out but the prof. decided to have class anyways. I started handing out lights to the people immediatley around me (I happened to have quite a few keychain lights and two incans)... I let the prof. strugle to see her notes [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    i *wish* we had outages, dind't even get hit during rolling black- and brownouts in california. i like my thunder to rock and roll, not this wanna-be "sprinkler" drizzle that makes headlines in so. california.

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    Come to think of it, although I own a couple of LED lights, the only light that receive daily usage is a lousy incandescent based 'right angle' flashlight that takes 2 AA sized batteries. I originally got it for using whenever I am back in the force.

    This is the only flashlight I own that includes a button switch (probably used for signaling), and I find that more convenient to use than twisting the head of the LED flashlights to switch them on. This light is so weak that it is rather dim even when I have a fresh set of alkaline batteries installed, and will refuse to light up 50% of the time. However, I find the dim light an advantage as it does not to blind me whenever I turn it on in the dark to check the time. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Funny isn't it.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Very rare...I don't remember the last time it happened, and I know it's been at least two and a half years. (that's how long I've been living in my new house - with power) I wish it would happen more often! Most of the power lines around here are under ground...

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    I moved here in 1996, and haven't yet seen a power outage. About a year earlier though (summer 1995), the power was out in this area for 5 days. Having all that food in the fridge go bad, having no electric fans, and having no place to recharge an electric wheelchair (not to mention not having the elevator either) doesn't sound very pleasant though. I'd be worried about more than just flashlights if the power went out here for more than a day. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]

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    Craig, I spent all five and a half of those days at some of my customer's (Sprint, GCI, AllNet, Alascom, AANet, MCI, State of Washington, etc.) who were all in the same building, assuring emergency power for their networks and helping them out with network re-routes and equipment problems. We had several thousand feet of cables running up and down stairwells and hallways.

    We supplied two 500KW generators parked in the alley and were still running their systems alternately on the generators and their batteries so we could meet the current demand. Even at that we were doing equipment cooling at one customer using fans and dry ice. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/huh.gif[/img] Luckily the largest communication company in the building (the entire 31st floor was their equipment) had their own 500KW emergency generator on the roof of the parking garage across the alley.

    Ron, the building electrician, had to run new power feeds from the generators to the building distribution system to feed the essential customers (lowest one was on the 24th floor) and since the power units were ours we got to decide who THEY were - the communication companies. We cut most of the other stuff off the 3000A north power riser, and transferred the comm companies to that one bus.

    The rest of the building was shut down since their "emergency backup power" was one 250KW generator on the roof to run fire pumps , emergency ventilation, emergency lighting, and one elevator (which was mostly used to haul 5 gallon jerrycans of diesel to the generator on the roof).

    I slept in one of my equipment rooms on the 34th floor that week and the wife brought me (and some other folks) meals.

    After we had commercial power finally restored, we spent the next week putting the building wiring back together, and cleaning diesel out of the lobby and number eight elevator.

    Over the next six months we completely rebiult the power buses in the building so that their were the two standard risers, two "emergency power" risers, and two "essential power" risers. We also installed an nice 1MW autostart emergency generator and specialized switching so that the emergency power and essential power buses could cross feed if necessary. We also put in a power jack in the alley that you would NOT believe so we could plug in one of our 500KW, 460V, 3 Ph, portable generators without having to run cables all over.

    OK, Extra Credit: What caused the power to 31 square blocks of downtown Seattle to fail for 5 1/2 days?


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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    Uh, just thought I should actually answer the question first asked: Here in the apartment building where I now live, we have had two outages of more than a few minutes in the past three years.


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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    usually about 2 to 3 times a year. It was out last weekend at work and we had a band camp preformance. We had to move everything out to the lobby and did the show with all natural light [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    Here in rural Nova Scotia, we get at least 3 major power outages each winter due to ice or wind storms that drop mature tree branches on the power lines. One of these outages is guaranteed to last at least 8 hours. Last winter, we had the power off for 15 hours during one storm.

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    El Nino in '97 was the best power outage I've seen in my areas (Fresno and Davis)... Otherwise, the notorious rolling blackouts here were redeeming only in that it provided me the excuse to burn some batteries...

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    Well, the uptime on my cablemodem linux router is two days shy of a year, and the last time it was rebooted was for a kernel upgrade. The power hasn't been out long enough for a PC power supply to notice in the ~2 years I've lived here. It's easy to get spoiled living in a city, with underground power feeds.

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    We occasionally get stupid little half-second blips which are enough for the contactor powering the bench in here to drop out, but not much else. Meaning the computer gets shut down, the CCTV goes off and it goes very dark in here.

    And then I get up, reset it, reboot everything and a half hour later *blip* off it goes again. It can do this a half dozen times in one night, but thankfuly those nights/days are not common.

    Hasn`t been a significant drop for years. Well, maybe about a year ago when it all went off one night for a half hour. Two eight-watt emergency mains-fail lights in here lit up as they should do, that woke me up and I looked out the front to see the streetlight off too. It didn`t last long and didn`t affect much more of the surrounding areas - everything off in the distance was still glaring into the night sky.

    I must admit I don`t look forward to power outages. Nothing works [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] And I can find plenty of excuses to use my lights elsewhere!

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    My house is at the end of a circuit. Homes accross the street are on the next. Since any problems upstream will take out my power, it happens three or four times a year, but usually only for a few hours. Many times, we don't notice until the next morning when all of the clocks are flashing. It's very irritating as it takes me an hour to reset all of my clocks and older VCRS (big home theater).

    Every few years or so, we have an ice storm or nasty weather that can take out the power. I love the navigating with flashlights part, but the cold part stinks. During the last one, I broke down and bought a generator.

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

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    OK, Extra Credit: What caused the power to 31 square blocks of downtown Seattle to fail for 5 1/2 days?

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    Now that I don't know...but I'm guessing that an underground transformer or two went boom and took some power cables along for the ride. I'd think that a transformer fire could be put out pretty quickly and a new transformer installed within 1 day. But power was out here for 5+ days, so I don't know what that was.
    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img] :toliet: [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    That's the right answer, Craig. A contractor was jack-hammering a chunk of sidewalk out (right next to the old Bergman Luggage) and nailed one of the underground 600VDC runs for the electric trolleys that started a fire in an underground transformer farm and switching node that burned for about 4 hours and crisped everything running into it or near it.

    Watching that fire, and seeing how intense it was, and how little the SFD could do to fight it was a bit frightening. No one could even get into the hole 'til the next day.

    Replacing all the transformers and many thousands of feet of underground cable that had been fused together in the conduits when the insulation burned took an awfully long time. Even cables in conduits that didn't have any openings or breaks in the vault and were just 'passing thru' were damaged and were replaced.

    Ugly job.

    The area around that vault stank for months.


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    We live for power outages?

    There's only been one power outage here in the past 3 years or so. However, I'm in California, and you may remember a few years ago there was a 4 or 5 month long power crisis. During that time, I was probably in 6-10 outages. That's when I started always carrying at least a keychain light.


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    I've had 3 in the last 6 weeks all between 20 and 30 minutes. That's unusual though. Normally there are only 1 or 2 a year that last more than 10 mins.
    The worst was The Ice Storm that knocked parts of the state out for 2 weeks back in 98 (or was it 97 or 99?). I just missed it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    For the occasional 2 to 30 second outages I have an APC UPS on my PBX, router, and cable modem; and another for the main computer. Those things are bulletproof.

    And when the lights go out at night I take my Arc AAA from my pocket to find my way to the closet where the Blaster II is. That thing makes an awesome candle.

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    Power was off at my school for 30 hours this summer...luckily I wasn't there, I don't have enough batteries or long light lights to keep it bright, plus I'd be really bored.

    (This post is mainly so I can see my member number so I can search for an old thread I posted in)

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    have you looked at the thread titled Why are you carrying so many flashlights? that's what I do when I'm bored.

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    I can only remember 2 major outages here. The first was due to the Ground wire on top of the 96KV Mansfield-Galion feeder, snapping and draping over the Hots. This was during a Siberian Express ( -22F ). The second one, was due to an especially idiotic Squirrel, who decided to build a nest in a Substation Transformer. The squirrel did not survive. Neither did the substation transformer.

    Other than that, the occasional weather related outage, or more rarely: auto accident.

    power went out twice in rapid succession, yesterday afternoon, but, thankfully short durations.

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    Let's see - Last power outage for me was 7 years or so ago. There was a fire in a sub station all the way across the county, but some MAJOR feeders went into it. About 10 hours later it was getting HOT, and the grid was going to go down, so the power company had to shead some neighborhood. My neighborrhod is all upper middle class, and low crime, so they figured there wouldn't be a public disturbance if they shead that, instead of the high crime poor neighborhood near the sub station. The gave us an hours warning it was going to happen. We were down about 7 hours

    Before that, it was 1977, and before that was the big East Coast blackout in what? 1967 or so (to young to remember it)

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    Here in OH, I have had power outages three times so far this summer. Heard a loud bang in the middle of the night and everything went off, must have been a transformer close by. I was working in a small office building and we would complain to mgmt all the time because we didn't have any UPS's for the servers and had power go off almost weekly.

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    1967? That was the one where the switch relay was setup backwards at the Niagra Power Plant. It proved that the rigid system of Load Shedding for protection, worked.

    I can just see the deep red OOPS! face on the guy who did that.

    Then there was the one where a thunderstorm took out all of Con Edison's Generator plants for NYC, in series, via lightning strikes.

    We missed both of those, here in Ohio.

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    I think you're thinking of Tuesday, November 9th 1965. Started in Toronto at 5:15pm, Rochester at 5:18, Boston at 5:21. New York proper stayed up until 5:28.

    Power came back on in Manhattan at 4:44 am.

    Course, I wouldn't be born for another 5 years, so I only know about it from hearsay [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    It is chronicled in an episode of "Wrath of God," a History Channel Series. I knew the date was reasonably close, as Johnson was President at the time and was worried there was an attack underway, by the Soviets (until he got more info).

    Amazing how some years and several generations makes a difference in behaviour. In the 1965 incident, everyone helped one another. However, in the one where Con Ed's Plants got taken out by lightning, even Lawyers were looting, plus rioting in the streets. That I remember, cause it was all over the news.

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    Spango,

    I would not say 'fear' of being left in the dark. I EDC an Infinity Ultra and it is sufficient for that 'just in case' situation. Let us say that it is not a good idea to fumble around in total darkness, especially if you are a Diabetic, or for another reason have impaired blood flow below the knees. As you can see, it makes perfect sense, to have something that is reliable, though not necessarily expensive with you at all times.

    As flashaholics, we have an inordinate fascination with flashlights and headlamps, particularly cutting edge and usually expensive ones. As a result, we carry light(s) that are far better than the sheeple do.

    A sheeple light is junky in quality, if not in price, and usually will not work when it is most needed to work. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: Do you get power outages often in your area?

    Just came close to losing power! A line of thunderstorms (50,000 ft) just rolled through. The lights blinked and I lost my Internet feed for about 5 minutes. Lights styed on though.

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    Spoke too soon! Took a lightning hit on the grid that caused a blink long enough to cause the computer to re-set.

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